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Schumer is for Schumer.. I would not trust that guy for anything. You can bet there is some reason behind his position other than "he thinks its a bad deal"
I cant stand Schummer, we need to boot him out of office but good.
Well that's what he says. So far, I'm not buying it.
Schumer wields a lot of influence, and he's set to replace Harry Reid. It's going to be quite an undertaking to garner enough votes to override Obama's veto. He certainly should be able convince fellow Democrats to join him, wouldn't you think?
Unless, of course, he's playing the typical politician's game, and voting "no," himself, simply to mollify his Jewish constituency because he knows it won't matter. It's also worth noting that his little ventriloquist's dummy, Kirsten Gillibrand, is supporting it--and this dunce is in Schumer's back pocket far more often than she's not.
According to the ASSUMPTION that CNN makes like they usually do, they base the bad deal and Schumer not supporting it on Schumer being afraid of not getting money down the road from people who are against the deal.
But when you hear Schumer's reasons then you hear valid points but that is not what CNN like to tell the public.
It is a bad deal and Democrats start to see the picture.
Iran has to vote to agree to let an inspection take place which is amongst a vote from China and Russia!!!
Really how can that even be part of this deal!
K - This is a good deal - not perfect, but better than expected. Iran DOES NOT get to "vote" on whether an inspection takes place. We have round the clock access to all declared sites. If we want to check something else out for whatever reason then we ask to. If Iran says no then a vote takes place, but the balance is in favor of the west who can overcome a potential support vote from Russia and China. Now, that is under the assumption that Iran would say no, or that China or Russia would support them over the west (the reason for this is because Iran could not possibly get an "anytime anywhere" agreement through its own parliament. Anytime anywhere would give us the freedom to go literally anywhere we wanted - even the President's bedroom!, and start demanding to see whatever we like. Iran had to save some face and not completely capitulate to the west).
Schumer knows that there are enough democrats to uphold the veto - its simple politics. He saves face in his district, doesn't burn a bridge with his pro-Israel backers, and still sees the deal go through.
Well that's what he says. So far, I'm not buying it.
Schumer wields a lot of influence, and he's set to replace Harry Reid. It's going to be quite an undertaking to garner enough votes to override Obama's veto. He certainly should be able convince fellow Democrats to join him, wouldn't you think?
Unless, of course, he's playing the typical politician's game, and voting "no," himself, simply to mollify his Jewish constituency because he knows it won't matter. It's also worth noting that his little ventriloquist's dummy, Kirsten Gillibrand, is supporting it--and this dunce is in Schumer's back pocket far more often than she's not.
We'll see.
Of course that's what he's doing. It's political bait and switch. And now Engle and Sherman have also jumped on the bandwagon. It's a pony show to appease their base and secure support, but meaningless because they know the deal will not get enough Dem's to make it veto-proof.
... excuse me, but Obama admitted they have enough material to make 10 bombs. Now they (Iran) need those billions to develop the delivery system. If anything, with Iran's history of breaking agreements and their incessant rhetoric about taking out Israel and killing Americans (in the midst of the negotiations) this deal WILL speed up their path to a nuclear weapon system.
Obama is full of well designed oration without a lick of substance.
I'm guilty here also.......it should be noted.....not a one of us know whether this is actually a good deal or not as the administration still refuses to allow the people to know what all is in it.
I've said it's much ado about nothing as Iran is going to end up doing whatever it wants anyway, but I may be wrong depending on what all is actually in it.
Of course that's what he's doing. It's political bait and switch. And now Engle and Sherman have also jumped on the bandwagon. It's a pony show to appease their base and secure support, but meaningless because they know the deal will not get enough Dem's to make it veto-proof.
... excuse me, but Obama admitted they have enough material to make 10 bombs. Now they (Iran) need those billions to develop the delivery system. If anything, with Iran's history of breaking agreements and their incessant rhetoric about taking out Israel and killing Americans (in the midst of the negotiations) this deal WILL speed up their path to a nuclear weapon system.
Obama is full of well designed oration without a lick of substance.
Nobody... except the cheerleaders and brain dead Hollywoodites.
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Let's sure as hell hope that more people join him in this. Lots more. Obama is just crazy and dead wrong.
I won't hold my breath; their game has become quite transparent. It's about the only thing that IS transparent about this administration... and isn't that a shame?
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And then? Other countries are going to trade with Iran regardless.
Not before Obama took this deal before the UN. Now the genie is out of the bottle.
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