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Old 08-08-2015, 06:22 PM
 
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Amend the constitution..............good luck when both D/R does not want that to happen, the money gravytrain must not end.
If the amendment is a curtailment on our free speech rights, they will be all over it.

 
Old 08-08-2015, 06:23 PM
 
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They aren't going to ask the Republican candidates about Citizens United because they know they will all lie through threw their teeth to keep those big donations coming their way.
C.U. had nothing whatsoever to do with campaign contributions. Nothing.
 
Old 08-08-2015, 06:24 PM
 
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You lefties do know that dems have gained more from that decision that the GOP, right?

"Useful idiots" come to mind every time a leftie complains about big money in politics.
How are you measuring this?
 
Old 08-08-2015, 06:26 PM
 
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Jeb Bush touched on this at RedState. He proposed something like a 6 year ban after leaving office to conduct lobbyst type work (wasn't paying close attention), but regardless he wouldn't have even mentioned it if it weren't for Trump.
This would likely be unconstitutional also. The government can't curtail how you make a living when its a lawful job.

Politicians can quit allowing access to them from lobbyists like Obama said he would do but never actually did.
 
Old 08-08-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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This would likely be unconstitutional also. The government can't curtail how you make a living when its a lawful job.

Politicians can quit allowing access to them from lobbyists like Obama said he would do but never actually did.
Yep, I don't believe them for a second. Big promises, no action. They are too afraid to say anything negative about someone in their own party, so nothing gets done. Cruz's response about calling McConnell a liar was spot on.
 
Old 08-08-2015, 07:15 PM
 
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Yep, I don't believe them for a second. Big promises, no action. They are too afraid to say anything negative about someone in their own party, so nothing gets done. Cruz's response about calling McConnell a liar was spot on.
Absolutely. And he isn't even as big of a liar as Boehner.
 
Old 08-08-2015, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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I look at this bunch of wealthy clowns (male AND female) running for "President" and I think my country has become a laughing stock.
 
Old 08-08-2015, 09:11 PM
 
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One of the reasons why Trump is gaining in popularity is because he says, I have my own money, so I won't owe any of my business friends' favors.

If Citizens United was revoked or even further policies were put in place to limit large donations from any individual, corporation, union etc then wouldn't that fix this issue?

Why isn't this question being asked because if XYZ came out and said, "Trump is right about our election process. It requires tons of money to win and politicians go out requesting money from big donors and end up owing favors that sometimes conflicts with campaign promises. However, simply saying I have my own money, doesn't solve the problem. If I became president, I would cap the amount any organization or person can donate." I think they would take a lot of the thunder away from Trump and even get some respect from Independents and moderate Democrats.
Politics is a business enterprise. You fool people, and make money. Trump even mentioned that he has bought most of the politicians sharing the stage with him... none could say they weren't sold. Citizen United support, hence, is no mystery... it is simply "greater opportunity".
 
Old 08-08-2015, 09:14 PM
 
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Politics is a business enterprise. You fool people, and make money. Trump even mentioned that he has bought most of the politicians sharing the stage with him... none could say they weren't sold. Citizen United support, hence, is no mystery... it is simply "greater opportunity".
If I recall, Rand Paul said he hadn't received any money and Trump just shrugged.
 
Old 08-08-2015, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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If I recall, Rand Paul said he hadn't received any money and Trump just shrugged.
Well, that depends on how Rand Paul counts money. We do know Rand Paul is in love with Citizen United... not without reasons. He will surely NEVER support getting rid of the blasphemy.
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