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Old 08-13-2015, 06:08 AM
 
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Black Plastic Balls to shade the water. At a cost of $35 Million dollars.


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Old 08-13-2015, 06:30 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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OK...I understand the theory. This bit about slowing up bromide, one thing interests me. Not long ago, I heard a report about plastic water bottles. Supposedly, bottles of water left in the sun, should be discarded, because the plastic releases formaldehydes. I'm no chemist, but , isn't that a bad thing? Trading bromides for formaldehydes....umm...OK. Unless this is different plastic. Idk.
Evap loss is a real issue. Its amazing how much water is lost that way. Same with heavy growths of noxious fauna, such as Tamarisk (Salt Cedar we call it here) and Russian Olive. That stuff sucks up a LOT of water. This sounds pretty goofy, as a solution , but hey, if it actually works. (Shrug) 35 mil seems a bit steep for a bunch of plastic balls, even if they are ballast loaded...we'll see, I guess. I have doubts, and more than just these questions, about it, but public input for spending ksnt big with CA government, and I don't live there, so my questions are simple curiosity.
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:36 AM
 
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$35 million out of CA's $114 billion annual budget? Not even close to 0.1%. That's nothing, if this thing works.

Mick
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:40 AM
 
Location: DFW
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They got something against white balls?

Sounds like a good thing if it works and there are no unintended consequences.
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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$35 million out of CA's $114 billion annual budget? Not even close to 0.1%. That's nothing, if this thing works.

Mick
It will preserve, from evaporation, drinking water for 8,100 people for a year. That's less than half of the Staples Center capacity.

Roughly .0002% of California's population.

Whatever, it's not my state.
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:51 AM
 
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I think we'd need to see a cost\benefit analysis as to the longevity of the project etc.

Could just be a sweet pork project for a donor though.

Not my problem though. <shrug>
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Old 08-13-2015, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Black plastic has the potential to absorb more radiation (solar energy) than the water's surface, potentially heating the reservoir and increasing the rate of evaporation. In theory, they should have used white or sliver (more reflective) ones.
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Old 08-13-2015, 07:10 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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That takes a lot of balls.
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:15 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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I think we'd need to see a cost\benefit analysis as to the longevity of the project etc.

Could just be a sweet pork project for a donor though.

Not my problem though. <shrug>
You would hope a study was conducted to evaluate all the potential risks compared to any benefits. But then again it's the city of Los Angeles, so wouldn't surprise me if a study was not done.
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Old 08-14-2015, 04:22 AM
 
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Black plastic has the potential to absorb more radiation (solar energy) than the water's surface, potentially heating the reservoir and increasing the rate of evaporation. In theory, they should have used white or sliver (more reflective) ones.
I wonder why they picked a dark plastic ball, versus a lighter color?
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