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Old 01-09-2016, 08:16 AM
 
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Would the stimulus bill which was mostly expansion of welfare be an example? or how about expanding welfare and taxing the crap out of others to pay for ACA?

I think its humorous at how far left many of you guys have had to go, in order to make obama seem like center, let alone leaning right..
You don't need to go far, you just need proper perspective. The use of massive amounts of tax payer money to reverse the economic disaster was started by GW and what Obama did as well to address an extreme economic problem was what most economic advisers considered necessary. The ACA simply gets us closer to what every other modern day advanced country has in the way of broader access to health care for all citizens (albeit we still need to do some fixing to get it right). Can't really call Obama a radical liberal for any of that...
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:05 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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The stock market has recovered. I wouldn't lay its surge to Obama; the Fed's quantitative easing deserves more of the credit.
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:14 PM
 
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My income has doubled in the last 5 years. I bought a foreclosed house that is now worth 50% more. My company is making enough money to have given me a brand new SUV for unlimited use. We can't find enough good young engineers to train.

To me, the recovery has been a very real thing. Don't blame Obama for your laziness if you haven't made any progress in the last 5 years.
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:21 PM
 
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Funny, the U.S. has the highest growth rate of any developed country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...DP_growth_rate
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Funny, the U.S. has the highest growth rate of any developed country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...DP_growth_rate
Funny how GDP doesn't measure quality. A 1 million dollar bomb that blows up in a day counts as much as a 1 million dollar house.

Funny how the median family income is stagnant while prices are rising.
Funny how the Labor Participation Rate for those 55 and under is getting smaller.
Funny how the number of people on food stamps is greater than those that were on them in 2011.
Funny how health care spending topped the growth in the economy, reaching 17.5 percent of GDP.
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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My income has doubled in the last 5 years. I bought a foreclosed house that is now worth 50% more. My company is making enough money to have given me a brand new SUV for unlimited use. We can't find enough good young engineers to train.

To me, the recovery has been a very real thing. Don't blame Obama for your laziness if you haven't made any progress in the last 5 years.
It's not about you princess.
You making money on a foreclosed house while ignoring the fact that someone lost that house somehow means to you the economy is improving?
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You don't need to go far, you just need proper perspective. The use of massive amounts of tax payer money to reverse the economic disaster was started by GW and what Obama did as well to address an extreme economic problem was what most economic advisers considered necessary. The ACA simply gets us closer to what every other modern day advanced country has in the way of broader access to health care for all citizens (albeit we still need to do some fixing to get it right). Can't really call Obama a radical liberal for any of that...
The same economic advisors who didn't see the Housing boom/bust coming. Yea lets listen to those economic failures.
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Old 03-20-2016, 03:02 PM
 
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No surprise.
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Old 03-20-2016, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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My income has doubled in the last 5 years. I bought a foreclosed house that is now worth 50% more. My company is making enough money to have given me a brand new SUV for unlimited use. We can't find enough good young engineers to train.

To me, the recovery has been a very real thing. Don't blame Obama for your laziness if you haven't made any progress in the last 5 years.
Yes, a shortage of engineers is just what this nation needs... Not.
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Old 03-20-2016, 03:14 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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My income has doubled in the last 5 years. I bought a foreclosed house that is now worth 50% more. My company is making enough money to have given me a brand new SUV for unlimited use. We can't find enough good young engineers to train.

To me, the recovery has been a very real thing. Don't blame Obama for your laziness if you haven't made any progress in the last 5 years.
It's not about you princess.
You making money on a foreclosed house while ignoring the fact that someone lost that house somehow means to you the economy is improving?
I represent many people in foreclosure. Frankly many never had equity in their properties. There are some I weep tears for but not all.

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Funny, the U.S. has the highest growth rate of any developed country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...DP_growth_rate
Unfortunately if Obama gets his way that won't be true for long. At the moment most of the developed world is the victim of social democracy. Obama and Clinton want us to go that route. I don't.
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