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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
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Originally Posted by GregW
I think the Europeans should tell their corporatist industries to produce more industrial robots instead of importing Muslim labor. My problem with these immigrants is they pay more attention to their religion than to their paychecks. If the left their religion behind and just concentrated on making money things would be a lot more civilized.
As expecting any people that have been brainwashed into believing in any absurdity that calls itself a religion is impossible the only effective way for Europe to maintain its culture and civilization ids to prevent any more Immigration, including refugees (cold, cruel and necessary), as well as deportation of those not already employed as soon as possible.
The humane long term solution to the overpopulation that drives the immigrants to leave their countries is to industrialize those economies and raise their living standards so staying home makes more sense than moving to Europe. The less humane solution involves one or more of the Four Horsemen reducing the population pressures that drive refugees, legal and illegal immigration.
All of this argument is based on the perception that European citizens and civilization are or is "better" than the Arabian Islamic people and civilization. The reality is some Europeans are indeed better than some Islamics and vice versa. IMHO European civilization IS FAR BETTER than ANY Islamic civilization on the planet. It is past time for our European cultural brothers to realize this and damn well do something about it. Like ban Islam and Islamics.
This does not apply directly to the US immigrant hoards because they mostly share our mercantile European based civilization. They are here to escape poverty and only add numbers to an existing Western religion. Fortunately the US has barriers to people that want to have their religion be their government. We also have to eliminate Islamic immigration for the same reason the Europeans have to ban Islam. They see no difference between living, government, business and religion. We all know the tyrannies that result from combining these.
They are people, not religion and they are in a bad situation.
I think the Europeans should tell their corporatist industries to produce more industrial robots instead of importing Muslim labor. My problem with these immigrants is they pay more attention to their religion than to their paychecks. If the left their religion behind and just concentrated on making money things would be a lot more civilized.
Europe screwed up big time by importing Muslim immigrants in mass numbers. The Muslim immigrant's first allegiance is to Islam, and not the Infidel host countries they live in.
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Originally Posted by golimar
Europe screwed up big time by importing Muslim immigrants in mass numbers. The Muslim immigrant's first allegiance is to Islam, and not the Infidel host countries they live in.
99% of these migrants are economic refugees. They are no worse off than the majority who remain behind and tough it out. I feel no compassion for the refugees, except the children. They are purely taking advantage of the European countries. Europeans are fools to take in these huge numbers of people.
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Originally Posted by High Springs Gator
99% of these migrants are economic refugees. They are no worse off than the majority who remain behind and tough it out. I feel no compassion for the refugees, except the children. They are purely taking advantage of the European countries. Europeans are fools to take in these huge numbers of people.
"When you’re facing the world’s biggest refugee crisis since the second world war, it helps to have a sober debate about how to respond. But to do that, you need facts and data – two things that the British migration debate has lacked this summer. "
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"62%
Far from being propelled by economic migrants, this crisis is mostly about refugees. The assumption by the likes of Hammond, May and others is that the majority of those trying to reach Europe are fleeing poverty, which is not considered by the international community as a good enough reason to move to another country. Whereas in fact, by the end of July, 62% of those who had reached Europe by boat this year were from Syria, Eritrea and Afghanistan, according to figures compiled by the UN. These are countries torn apart by war, dictatorial oppression, and religious extremism – and, in Syria’s case, all three. Their citizens almost always have the legal right to refuge in Europe. And if you add to the mix those coming from Darfur, Iraq, Somalia, and some parts of Nigeria – then the total proportion of migrants likely to qualify for asylum rises to well over 70%."
It is clear that the West- aka Europe, North America, Japan, Australia and NZ- is the superior model of civilization. This endless stream of migrants from the chaos of the Third World proves that. The debate, as much as there was one, is over. It is our respective market economies, education systems, social welfare states, and yes, Tolerance, that make this so.
It is 2015. Colonialism and Nationalistic Insurgencies are long over. It is high time for the Third World to get its act together. The West cannot be expected to absorb and endless stream of poverty.
It is clear what works and what does not. Do what works. As Orson Wells said, "If you are going to steal, then steal from the best."
The one-way destination proves what works. Imitate it rather than swamp it. Join the club already.
Yeah...didn't work out too well for Germany the last time they got down with that program, did it?
So why force the situation? Why not just leave them alone, they are doing great. I know this is American BS that is forcing this upon them. They would NEVER choose to allow these into their country, never.
If these were immigrants with similar views and positive aspirations, that would still be bad enough. However, combining the problems of general immigration with a clash of civilizations ensures there will be significant problems for all parties involved down the line.
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