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Old 08-18-2015, 09:04 PM
 
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Its almost as if people have a natural desire for determining their own fates, within the borders of their homelands.

I do not begrudge German self-determination in any way, shape, or form.

If WWII was the "war that saved Western Civilization" as some people still like to call it, I'd hate to see what a worse outcome might have been.

Germany should be full of ethnic Germans. Period.
I don't care what Germany is full of. I'm not from Germany.

I'm telling you that it WOULD'VE been almost ALL ethnic German had they not started a world war. They brought this on themselves. No one forced immigrants on the Germans.

 
Old 08-18-2015, 09:27 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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I don't care what Germany is full of. I'm not from Germany.

I'm telling you that it WOULD'VE been almost ALL ethnic German had they not started a world war. They brought this on themselves. No one forced immigrants on the Germans.
Could it be they are going a more humanitarian route? Just saying ... anything is possible.
 
Old 08-18-2015, 09:30 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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No one forced immigrants on the Germans.
BS, western elites inside and outside of Germany are forcing mass immigration on all of us in the west.

The Germans responsible for WWII are dead.

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Old 08-18-2015, 10:34 PM
 
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BS, western elites inside and outside of Germany are fording mass immigration on all of us in the west.

The Germans responsible for WWII are dead.
That's a convenient lie to fall back on. Why haven't the Swiss allowed their country to be overran with immigrants?

Germany brought this upon themselves. No one forced them to do anything. In fact, they decided to import slave laborers during the war...and hundreds of thousands remained after the war. I knew the children of some of those people when I lived in Germany and worked with a few.

Bad behavior during war has consequences. I see no reason why I should feel bad for the Germans.

Moreover, THIS country was forced to take in your ancestors. Don't be so haughty.
 
Old 08-18-2015, 10:38 PM
 
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I don't care what Germany is full of. I'm not from Germany.

I'm telling you that it WOULD'VE been almost ALL ethnic German had they not started a world war. They brought this on themselves. No one forced immigrants on the Germans.
You are wading in the deep end of historical knowledge without knowing how to swim. Your conclusion is nonsense.
 
Old 08-18-2015, 10:40 PM
 
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That's a convenient lie to fall back on. Why haven't the Swiss allowed their country to be overran with immigrants?

Germany brought this upon themselves. No one forced them to do anything. In fact, they decided to import slave laborers during the war...and hundreds of thousands remained after the war. I knew the children of some of those people when I lived in Germany and worked with a few.

Bad behavior during war has consequences. I see no reason why I should feel bad for the Germans.

Moreover, THIS country was forced to take in your ancestors. Don't be so haughty.
Switzerland has immigrant problems. You aren't up to date with the politics that you are discussing.
 
Old 08-18-2015, 10:56 PM
 
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Europe screwed up big time by importing Muslim immigrants in mass numbers. The Muslim immigrant's first allegiance is to Islam, and not the Infidel host countries they live in.

This Aussie Muslim explains it well:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssj_pOHM8pg
This a perfect example of Western white decadence and suicide.

The bleeding hearts think we owe stuff to refugees and the poor of the Third World.

So they let them in, and then the people they rescued -- far from being thankful -- advocate violence against their rescuers.

What is missing here?

An understanding of human nature -- which is not and never has been pretty.

Liberals and leftists base their policies on the way they think things should be (e.g., a multicultural Kumbaya paradise).

But things are rarely what they should be, they are only what they are.
 
Old 08-18-2015, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Regular Germans are apparently tired of having their country transformed by unlimited mass immigration....
They should increase the population with Germans by recalling, if that was possible, the Germans who immigrated to the Americas. What are they doing there anyway?

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Old 08-18-2015, 10:58 PM
 
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They are people, not religion and they are in a bad situation.
The fact that they are people is hardly a recommendation.
 
Old 08-18-2015, 11:03 PM
 
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It is clear that the West- aka Europe, North America, Japan, Australia and NZ- is the superior model of civilization. This endless stream of migrants from the chaos of the Third World proves that. The debate, as much as there was one, is over. It is our respective market economies, education systems, social welfare states, and yes, Tolerance, that make this so.

It is 2015. Colonialism and Nationalistic Insurgencies are long over. It is high time for the Third World to get its act together. The West cannot be expected to absorb and endless stream of poverty.

It is clear what works and what does not. Do what works. As Orson Wells said, "If you are going to steal, then steal from the best."

The one-way destination proves what works. Imitate it rather than swamp it. Join the club already.
They won't do that because, quite frankly, they are inferior.

That is the reason why they are where they are.

We need to stop regarding them as our equals or as potentially our equals. They are not.

Why not? The reason, whatever it is, doesn't really matter.

Just keep them where they are. Away from us.
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