2 women pass Army Ranger School, first female graduates

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981

yeah, like a lone female sniper wreaks havoc on a squad of U.S. Marines in that stupid full metal jacket movie really happened.

On my iPad. Hard to do links. Google Pavlichenko WWII female sniper.

[lilyflower3191981]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

On my iPad. Hard to do links. Google Pavlichenko WWII female sniper.

well, I was talking about the Full metal jacket sniper, never happened.

[lilyflower3191981]

Plus, one super woman exists, doesn't mean all women should try for special forces.

You got some child soldiers kicking ass too, you know.

[Taiko]

Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981

Plus, one super woman exists, doesn't mean all women should try for special forces.

You got some child soldiers kicking ass too, you know.

"All" women nor all men try for special forces. A high percentage are disqualified for things like eyesight long before the first physical test to see if they can go to jump school to get airborne qualified. Much less make it through a Ranger, Special Forces Assessment, Basic Underwater Demolition (BUDS) or SEAL qualification. Marine Recon or even just the USMC School of the Infantry.

However that two in a hundred or ten thousand who try and can qualify adds unique capabilities to an undercover force doing special things more effectively then trying to use a male Ranger, SEAL, Recon, Delta Trooper in woman's clothes.

[lilyflower3191981]

Originally Posted by Taiko

"All" women nor all men try for special forces. A high percentage are disqualified for things like eyesight long before the first physical test to see if they can go to jump school to get airborne qualified. Much less make it through a Ranger, Special Forces Assessment, Basic Underwater Demolition (BUDS) or SEAL qualification. Marine Recon or even just the USMC School of the Infantry.

However that two in a hundred or ten thousand who try and can qualify adds unique capabilities to an undercover force doing special things more effectively then trying to use a male Ranger, SEAL, Recon, Delta Trooper in woman's clothes.

well, I KNOW not ALL women nor all men try for special forces, no need to smack your head for that comment.

The bolded, agree to disagree. If you can prove they can do special things MORE effectively than male Recon, Delta, ranger, Seal, I am willing to listen. Graduate from a school does not mean you are better than anybody else who graduated from that school. Just because you make it all the way to the NBA, doesn't mean you get to play.

And please don't take it the wrong way, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I think civilians are entitled to their own opinions as well.

I am not pretending to be a military expert because I am not and I won't be able to do what these two women did in a million years. However, Overwhelming majority of the combat veterans I know at least are very passionate about this subject, they don't want women in special forces.

I volunteer at va hospital, many veterans have said, "Unfortunately, people are going to look at Rangers a little bit different now, not in a good way." It has nothing to do with gender discrimination.