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Old 08-19-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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I'm not following all the details of this, but if I'm not mistaken it goes along the line of Clinton using personal servers to store State Department emails, then leaving the State Department, and then clearing out some or all of the State Department emails because she didn't work there anymore. Is that the sequence?

If so, shouldn't the beef really be that she didn't completely and effectively "wipe" the server as soon as she left the State Department?
Everything she wrote as an official is supposed to be archived and, if not classified, available through the freedom of information act. Hillary deliberately withheld information and at this point there is no way of knowing what she said, what secrets she may have leaked (or sold), or to who. She shouldn't have had access to the server in the first place, it should never have been at her house.
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Old 08-19-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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With that kind of ignorance he must be a Democrat.
Nope - As I said above only a Computer Scientist with a deep knowledge of that system could state that. Maybe one did...but it is not in evidence.
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Old 08-19-2015, 03:25 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I hope she is getting used to orange! Of course, the Democrats are so corrupt they'll make sure she doesn't serve one day.

This woman has been lying her entire life, just like Obama.
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Old 08-19-2015, 03:31 PM
 
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Everything she wrote as an official is supposed to be archived and, if not classified, available through the freedom of information act.
Nope. The law does not require officials to retain everything they write (or speak). But if the records still exist when requested by FOI, they fall under the provisions of the act.
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Old 08-19-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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I don't really know that there is any State Dept regulation that you cannot keep a copy of non classified material. What would the criteria be? Work related?
If there is any problem to be had, it would be that she's still keeping private copies, not that she got rid of them when she left.

The classified information angle has no legal hooks. FOI might under the "secret email account" angle, and that's where clearing her server might have relevance.
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Old 08-19-2015, 03:38 PM
 
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I'm not following all the details of this, but if I'm not mistaken it goes along the line of Clinton using personal servers to store State Department emails, then leaving the State Department, and then clearing out some or all of the State Department emails because she didn't work there anymore. Is that the sequence?

If so, shouldn't the beef really be that she didn't completely and effectively "wipe" the server as soon as she left the State Department?
YEP - it's perfectly clear that you "are not following the details" and you are certainly "mistaken", but don't worry about it. IF you can't follow the details - At this Point, What Difference Does it Make!!
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Old 08-19-2015, 03:56 PM
 
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I don't really know that there is any State Dept regulation that you cannot keep a copy of non classified material. What would the criteria be? Work related?
The "criteria" appears to be Indictment & Prosecution - the Inspector Generals' of the State Department & Intelligence Community AND the State Department itself have all said that Clinton had Classified, Secret AND Top Secret emails in her Email dump to the State Department via her Lawyer ..... who also had it in his possession. It's all in this thread and in others on the same subject, she deliberately set up a Secret Server, she circumvented Government Rules, Protocols that she signed off on Annually and took training on Annually -- she Sent/Received Classified, Secret & Top Secret emails and she kept them on her Private Secret Server that didn't even have basic protection. People can go to jail for that, but they certainly get prosecuted for it in the Obama Administration at larger numbers than any President in History.

Hillary Clinton on the Sanctity of Protecting Classified Information |Glenn Greenwald

This isn't Rocket Science folks - although it's easier for those of us that have experience with the Security Clearances and what you have to do Annually for even the most basic clearance.
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Old 08-19-2015, 04:03 PM
 
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Crazy huh? The right is sinking to such lows. For example:

1) Enforcing the law
2) Expecting Hillary to be truthful

Such lowly acts!
Precisely This
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Old 08-19-2015, 04:13 PM
 
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The "criteria" appears to be Indictment & Prosecution - the Inspector Generals' of the State Department & Intelligence Community AND the State Department itself have all said that Clinton had Classified, Secret AND Top Secret emails in her Email dump to the State Department via her Lawyer ..... who also had it in his possession. It's all in this thread and in others on the same subject, she deliberately set up a Secret Server, she circumvented Government Rules, Protocols that she signed off on Annually and took training on Annually -- she Sent/Received Classified, Secret & Top Secret emails and she kept them on her Private Secret Server that didn't even have basic protection. People can go to jail for that, but they certainly get prosecuted for it in the Obama Administration at larger numbers than any President in History.

Hillary Clinton on the Sanctity of Protecting Classified Information |Glenn Greenwald

This isn't Rocket Science folks - although it's easier for those of us that have experience with the Security Clearances and what you have to do Annually for even the most basic clearance.
Except that OCAs do not sign the same documents we peons do...they make the rules.
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Old 08-19-2015, 04:14 PM
 
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Hillary's campaign is doomed.
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