Simplify "medicare"

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by Delahanty

Spoken like someone who doesn't know the difference between Medicaid and Medicare.

Seniors, beware: This "Medicare For All" movement is actually "Obamacare For All (Including Seniors"). Those on Medicare are exempt from the ACA. They need that great number of seniors, Medicare reipients, to fund Obamacare. This cockamaimie idea is how they'll do it. Think about it.

Actually I've suggested similar actions in the past. There are valid reasons to merge the plans and not only insurance, but also move Section 8, and various other programs into the same "welfare" office..

One stop for all...

[NLVgal]

Originally Posted by Chance and Change

Roll in the provision of Medicare and Medicaid into one program. When people reach the Age of "65" the services are available to them . PERIOD !!!!! - LETS REMOVE THE SILLINESS FROM THE PROGRAM AND MAKE IT 123 SIMPLE.
This is American, we don't need a program with all this craziness, we need a simple program and we can make that happen.

Get rid of this part A and part B and part D crap - at age 65 people are enrolled and it rolls into one program with all the benefits available to those who need it.



It will save the system 100's of billions, to be ONE "COMPLETE" PROGRAM at age 65 - then contract provisions with medical facilities of every type can register, and prescription medication can be contracted with all pharmaceutical companies for fixed low cost medication for everyone over the age of 65. ANY COMPANY THAT DOES NOT REGISTER, WILL BE EXCLUDED FROM ANY AND ALL FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS RELATED TO HEALTH CARE FOR SENIORS. This will make the greedy medical facilities fade away and not be able to selectively rip off the system, and only those who have HONESTY AND SINCERE concern for people will thrive.

People young than 65, can have the program to function based on their needs, but all services will be available based on their condition and needs.

This is 'the best avenue for Senior citizen nationwide health care". and health care for those under 65 based on their needs.

There is no need to attach a premium to senior citizens, unless it is one fixed cost for everyone who earn under 20K a year i.e. $85. a month. and have a different cost structure for people who earn over 20k a year. i.e. $200. a month.
MANDATE ALL HOSPITALS TO ACCEPT MEDICARE PROGRAM PATIENTS WHO ARE OVER THE AGE OF 65, OR IF THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE, THEY GET ABSOLUTELY "0$" FROM ANY STATE/FEDERAL PROGRAM.

We the people can make this system work, to take care of our Senior Citizen.

IF this program was put in place, there would be massive construction building across this nation of Long Term Health care facilities, Assisted Living housing developments, and we'd see a boom in building facilities and a boom in health care trained people who will rush in to support these facilities and program participants.

I've dealt with Medicare for decades. It's not that complicated. It's an 80/20 insurance plan with restrictions in place to address abuse by physicians and other care providers. For instance, one of Medicare's rules is that you have to inform patients, up front, if the procedure your health care provider ordered is a non covered service, and gives you an estimat of your costs. Is that complicated?

They are a pita about reporting requirements, and when they change the private third party administrators, well.. That can be a nightmare. Medicare is the easiest payer in the healthcare market.

If you want confusion, game playing, profiteering, and corruption, look no further than the largest private payers. They own a fat chunk of the Medicare business, and the Medicaid business.

[Bobdreamz]

Originally Posted by greywar

I agree, lets simplify it. Universal healthcare for everyone in a similar method as the rest of the developed world does.

Remove the massive profit center that insurance companies represent, along with their massive infrastructure that makes providing medical care more difficult and expensive.

That would be too logical and the Conservatives brains would explode. Go ask anybody who is under 62/65 and see how wonderful Medicaid is. It works better than the VA!

[Chance and Change]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

No, better to pass a law that requires all doctors to treat all patients regardless of where the payment comes from.

Doctors use to respect the Oath, now they far too often become "money chaser" trying to see who can become the most wealthy. It's sad our system has put wealth chasing above the dignity of individual and profession.
It's sad how people over-inflate cost, products and other services to bleed the system, under the banner of caring for people.
How did these current generations become so materialistic and money hungry until they forgot about "ethics".

We see a mass of people dying wealthy by malicious gains, what did it benefit them to hoard money, only to die and leave it in a cycle of matters which include, waste by the heir, fights and every other kind of madness people can engage.
Life is not about who is the most wealthy, but it is about who has a heart, compassion, dignity and respect; who holds and upholds the honor and fear of violating the respect for God principles.

We have some very vile people in the culture of society today, including those who have issue with others getting help. We have people who pursue political office for the sake of self aggrandizing madness and proceed to damage generations yet to come.
Only when health fails and reality sets in do some come to their sense to understand what matters most in life, but for many that reality only comes when they are diminished in the physical capacity.

Evils gain nothing, nor does the racial bias, bigotry and the anguish at others getting assistance of various sorts. It certainly benefit no individual to fight against the care for the senior citizens or the contempt at young people being assisted by our systems in the nation.

We listen to posturing politicians, who result to distort the concept of dignity and insult the integrity of the masses all for their want of political free rides and ego elation's.

Medicare and Medicaid should be merged into a single system, that will make it simpler to track the thieves and abusers and those who financially gouge the system.

[MTAtech]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Let's get rid of it, period.

Conservatives want to do away with Medicare has always been political: It goes against conservative ideology that says the government can't do anything right -- so it must be attacked. The very idea of the government providing a successful universal safety net undermines their entire belief structure.

Furthermore, other wealthy countries with government-provided health insurance spend much less than we do, again suggesting that Medicare-type programs can indeed control costs.

What is funny is that some of the GOP presidential candidates are proposing to voucherize Medicare. I can't think of a more heated issue to tick-off seniors.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Bobdreamz

That would be too logical and the Conservatives brains would explode. ...

Now you've convinced me even more!

[Chance and Change]

Originally Posted by MTAtech

Conservatives want to do away with Medicare has always been political: It goes against conservative ideology that says the government can't do anything right -- so it must be attacked. The very idea of the government providing a successful universal safety net undermines their entire belief structure.

Furthermore, other wealthy countries with government-provided health insurance spend much less than we do, again suggesting that Medicare-type programs can indeed control costs.

What is funny is that some of the GOP presidential candidates are proposing to voucherize Medicare. I can't think of a more heated issue to tick-off seniors.

A voucher system is not a good idea - We have enough data system sophistication to have eveyone profiled the same as they do with social security numbers, or other identifying data; which is linked to a database.
Credit Agencies have no problem recording transaction data, for what every they (want) to use it for.
People can be issued cards, with fingerprint, eye scan or other idenity technology, to identify who is the user. The avenue of getting Medical Records digitized of which Obama pursued in his first term, is the answer. This way patient information is portable. Patient Conditions are noted, and the vitals can pop up on a screen any time the doctor's system has checked in a patient.
We have the sophistication in the system.

We are a society who is easily hoodwinked to belive what nay sayers push. Yet, we see examples all day everyday, where banks can use ATM cars, On-like client idenity, investor programs use it, cell phone use it via apps. There is absolutely no way that we can't make the computers do this idenity work.
It can also track any merchant medical facility who charges anything and everything.
Our system alreadys knows what is "fair market price", vs what is gouging. thus so, as it relates to medical items, Just as American met a 'quality standard", then anything sold to people or produced or imported into this country and marketed has to meet "quality standards", or the system rejects it, and provide the recommended price point and products options for the consumer to select.
Any medical related business must registered when they apply for license or certification to be put into the provider systems. Or you don't issue them a license or other credentials.

We can force 'ETHIC'S" back into our system. We can force fair play and fair rate of pay for products and services into our system.
We can stop the over supply that some vendors do, which cause people to loose benefits because the supplier continues to over bill and over supply until it generates a negative in the system and draws a flag, often causing people to have provisions or benefits canceled, and they must go through a hassel to get provisions restored.

America claims it has the fastest "Super Computers", Then put them to work!!!!! It is not difficult for a database to generate report info which can satisfy what is requred by medicare and medicaid, on "one" form !!!!
When we duplicate 'data" we are prone to error.. because not only does one system need to be updated,but now two systems need updates, and the many variables which cause system conflicts, because each system is using properietary software which does not communicate well with the next systems software.

Politicians play on the generalized ignorance of society, by promoting a higher level of ignorance via collusive jargon in how they let degree riders collude what is policy and program guidelines. ( these people collude anything, trying to make a name for themselves or get a bonus for creating collusion).
Nope- we can stop this craziness.
INVEST IN USING THE BEST COMPUTER SYSTEM WE CLAIM AS AMERICA TO HAVE. Do not buy Chinese computers or any foreign system - Build and buy American systems on American social and build programs that actually communicate with different data streams, to produce a combined report and profile status, then the systems can work in a conjoined manner.

Geek head sometimes make stuff crazy, only in aims to try and prove how smart they are, rather than to make it function, secure and simple to communicates.
We don't need the madness of things such as Microsoft did, by playing licensening games, or they would not let software work together smoothly..

If they want to produce software for medical use, then it needs to have capability to communicate across platforms and language structures.

If we become informed people, we can make the prgressinve things work and have them up and running in a very short time span.