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I get that. Where I live there a few and they work very hard. I don't they are much of a burden over here. Thanks!
Julian, you sound like a very compassionate, level headed, and smart poster. Please do some research about this issue and try talking to a economist who is not a political hack.
You will realize that illegal (even mass legal immigrants from poor third world countries) create a temporary economic bubble. They increase the GDP temporarily, but decrease the GDP per capita. We have to build more schools, hospitals, for these people. With our national debts, we can no longer afford it. It is really just fact.
Keep on asking questions and don't be afraid of speaking your mind. You asked some good questions here.
So, you hired "unlicensed" workers to mow your lawn, paint your house and do your plumbing? Bad idea! Did you know that if anyone who isn't licensed, bonded and insured should have an accident on your property, your homeowner's insurance won't cover the costs? Be prepared to pay for it with your own money. If you think an illegal alien wouldn't sue you, think again. There are plenty of advocacy groups who would gladly help them. If I'm not mistaken, you are in MD? If so, don't you know that CASA de Maryland would make sure that any illegal alien who is injured on your property will get a nice payday from you?
Besides, it's foolish to hire an unlicensed plumber. How can you even be sure that they know what they're doing and doing it up to code?
You hired an illegal alien to take care of your mother? How can you be sure that this person was disease-free? Legal immigrants are required to go through health checks before they get their green cards. Illegals go through no such checks. Besides, anyone who would thumb their noses at our immigration laws is not "a gem".
To answer your other questions --- "peasants from South America" have destroyed the livelihoods of Americans who worked in the construction industry. Many who owned their own businesses and did everything by the book, have found that they can't compete with sleazy contractors who hire illegals and pay under the table.
Lots of unskilled workers have been losing out to illegals. Many of those unskilled jobs out there could be going to mentally disabled people but instead are going to illegals. Plenty of high school and college students would take those fast food restaurant jobs as would senior citizens trying to supplement their retirement income.
I agree, but the folks are highly recommended and only hired for minor jobs.
Then there are those that became legal and now have their own lawn mowing business.
Julian, you sound like a very compassionate, level headed, and smart poster. Please do some research about this issue and try talking to a economist who is not a political hack.
You will realize that illegal (even mass legal immigrants from poor third world countries) create a temporary economic bubble. They increase the GDP temporarily, but decrease the GDP per capita. We have to build more schools, hospitals, for these people. With our national debts, we can no longer afford it. It is really just fact.
Keep on asking questions and don't be afraid of speaking your mind. You asked some good questions here.
But, why do illegals get so many benefits? At that point they are in the system.
Via their Constitutionally and legally INVALID anchor babies.
I'll post it again...
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Time again to post the long legal history on this and/or refresh everyone's memory...
The children of illegal aliens born in the U.S. were never intended to have birthright citizenship. This is how we know...
1) The 14th Amendment and it's original intent:
Senator Trumbull: "The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.’ That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.’ What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof? Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means."
Children born in the U.S. to a foreign citizen parent whose country has jus sanguinis (right of blood) citizenship law were never supposed to be born U.S. citizens. They may choose to naturalize as a U.S. citizen at some point, but they were never intended to be U.S. citizens at birth. Only those ignorant of historical fact and the Congressional Record misinterpret the 14th Amendment to mean anything else.
2) Article XXV Section 1992 of the 1877 Revised Statutes, enacted after the 14th Amendment, which clarified exactly who are U.S. citizens at birth per the Constitution:
"All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States".
3) U.S. Secretaries of State determinations as to exactly who has birthright citizenship:
Secretary of State Frederick Frelinghuysen determined Ludwig Hausding, though born in the U.S., was not born a U.S. citizen because he was subject to a foreign power at birth having been born to a Saxon subject alien father.
Similarly, Secretary of State Thomas Bayard determined Richard Greisser, though born in Ohio, was not born a U.S. citizen because Greisser's father, too, was an alien, a German subject at the time of Greisser's birth. Bayard specifically stated that Greisser was at birth 'subject to a foreign power,' therefore not "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" within the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment.
4) In regards to illegal aliens' anchor babies... Their parents were NOT in the U.S. legally and therefore did NOT have a permanent domicile and residence in the U.S. as did Wong Kim Ark's, a fact on which SCOTUS based their determination that WKA was born a U.S. citizen:
WKA decision:
"The evident intention, and the necessary effect, of the submission of this case to the decision of the courtupon the facts agreed by the parties were to present for determination the single question stated at the beginning of this opinion, namely, whether a child born in the United States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative."
The parents must have a permanent domicile and residence in the U.S. WKA's parents were living in the U.S. legally. Illegal immigrants don't have a permanent domicile in the U.S. because they are in the country illegally. Furthermore, it is a federal offense to harbor an illegal alien in the U.S., or aid or abet in their harboring in the U.S. Illegal aliens' permanent domicile is in their home country; the country which would issue their passports were they to have one.
For political reasons, the 14th Amendment has been bastardized since then, but such bastardization was never an actual Constitutional Amendment.
5) The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 which had to be enacted because even when Native Americans were born in the U.S., they were not U.S. citizens. Why? Because they were subject to a foreign power (Indian Nations). Note that the 1924 date of this Act is significantly later than both the 14th Amendment and the Wong Kim Ark ruling.
I realize that's a lot of historical information to digest. But sadly, our public education system is such a joke that very few people are aware of the history surrounding the 14th Amendment and how subsequent births to parents of various nationalities were treated in the U.S. up until "policy" (not the Constitution or the law) very recently changed.
There has never been any law passed, similar to the 1924 Indian Citizenship Act, that gives birthright citizenship to anyone born in the U.S. but subject to a foreign power.
I agree, but the folks are highly recommended and only hired for minor jobs.
Then there are those that became legal and now have their own lawn mowing business.
You miss the point entirely. It doesn't matter if they are "highly recommended" and only do "minor jobs". If they get injured on your property and are not licensed, bonded and insured your homeowners' insurance policy won't cover it. That cheap labor you hire won't be so cheap after all.
Just do the right thing and pay more money for people who are licensed, bonded and insured. Ask before hiring them if they use day laborers. If they do, don't hire them. Period.
"Facebook temporarily banned users from posting reports by an immigration watchdog analyzing federal statistics that show immigrants in general, and illegal immigrants specifically, are taking a big share of new jobs that come open in America, according to the group producing the reports. The giant website cited an "error" causing the ban and apologized. The Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank relied upon by immigration critics, said Monday that the posting of four recent reports on jobs and immigration had been barred by Facebook."
Here's an idea. There aren't enough illegal immigrants working as reporters on news staffs therefore they must be underrepresented in news stories. Let's encourage them to replace US citizen reporters here. Maybe they'll work cheaper than news reporters in this country so the newspapers and TV networks can lower the wages of all reporters.
Yes, illegals provide a service to many Americans such as mowing the lawn, cleaning hotel rooms, restaurant cooks, etc.
And then you have 15 million on unemployment. If you can explain this you have your answer, unless you really don’t have a question. Let me throw this to you. Lawns were mowed, hotels were cleaned and restaurants cooked in the 60s. How did it happen?
I get that. Where I live there a few and they work very hard. I don't think they are much of a burden over here. Thanks!
How do you know?
Do they pay school tax?
Do they have health insurance?
Do they pay income tax or payroll tax?
Do they drive with valid DL and insurance?
You don’t know any of that.
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Very informative!
