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It's a job and they need bodies. Why don't you respect the work the illegals do instead of mock it? If they don't pick and harvest the crops, you don't eat.
Where the hell did I disrespect or mock them??? If you are going to just make up crap to look important, people will only see you for the fool you are. Either be honest in your discussions here, or be ignored.
I have been sticking up for those people. they wok hard, very, very hard, and they are being exploited, and treated like disposable work mules. These people are being exploited, paid less than they deserve, receive no benefits, so their greedy employers can reap bigger profits. And yet you vote for the same corrupt politicians who make this possible, and the kicker is, you vote for them even after they tell you they will allow this crap to go on decade after decade.
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So annoyed with this white entitlement. If you want to end illegal immigration, then get the lazy white people who don't have a job out into the fields to pick crops themselves.
I drive by a town that is 95 percent white on the way to work. It's unemployment rate is above the states average.
Big field I drive by on the way to work, with a sign saying 14.00 hr, start today.
Who is in the field, almost all hispanics?
Who are the unemployed people in that city, white people.
I don't want to hear about illegal immigration and them taking jobs away when the same whites who whine about them collect food stamps/section 8/unemployment and whatever else they can from the government.
Geez, you truly cannot see the forest for the tress.
When I lived in Fayetteville, Arkansas basically all home construction workers were Mexicans. All of the local guys either had to move away to find work, file for unemployment or find a new career path.
As long as we have an unemployment problem in this country no way should we be letting illegals take jobs here. And these were NOT jobs no one else wanted or would do -- carpenters, brick layers, painters...
And illegal aliens will accept a much lower wage and tolerate a much lower quality work environment, which is why so many wages are depressed.
Libs wail and moan about the income disparity, while at the same time they promote immigration policies that depress wages.
Plumbers, electricians, carpenters, welders, leather workers, hair dressers, are all good middle class jobs, jobs that illegal immigration have been taking over, jobs where the wages are not keeping up with inflation. And yet... democrats want more illegal immigration and exacerbate the income disparity and bring down the mean, average family income in the USA even more.
Trump is never actually going to do the things he's saying during the campaign. This is a giant reality TV show for him and he's stringing along a lot of idiots who think he's serious about running for president. This is purely an ego thing for him and he knows he can't win. He doesn't care though, because the more attention he can get the happier he is. He's a narcissist and a buffoon, nothing more.
And I bet you like Hillary My wise old Grandpa always told me don't count your chicks before they're hatched or you work until it's done...
We have an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the US, which is about equal to the combined populations of NYC and Chicago. Trump says:
Immigrations & Customs Enforcement (ICE) has about 15,000 employees that deported over 400,000 illegal immigrants in 2013. In order to deport 11 million in a year's time(much less 'day one'), you're going to need a national immigration police force of over 400,000. Is that what Trump supporters want?
How are you going to round them up? Door to door searches? Once you round them up, how are you going to house, clothe and feed 11 million people until you can ship them to the border? And how are you going to ship them? Cattle cars? Are you going to have massive detention camps to sort out the legals from illegals, or just send them back and let Mexico sort 'em out? What if Mexico won't take them back? Mass executions?
How exactly is this all going to work?
well....i'd start with the prisons, we know exactly where they are, pretty easy pickings, pack 'em up, adios...then i'd find the 40% or more that have overstayed their visas, they're not kids, or should i say 'dreamers', they're adults who signed a contract to stay a specific period of time, then broke that contract...then, when that all shakes out you may not have such a daunting problem dealing with the ones here who do all the sh*t jobs.
It's a job and they need bodies. Why don't you respect the work the illegals do instead of mock it? If they don't pick and harvest the crops, you don't eat.
So annoyed with this white entitlement. If you want to end illegal immigration, then get the lazy white people who don't have a job out into the fields to pick crops themselves.
I drive by a town that is 95 percent white on the way to work. It's unemployment rate is above the states average.
Big field I drive by on the way to work, with a sign saying 14.00 hr, start today.
Who is in the field, almost all hispanics?
Who are the unemployed people in that city, white people.
I don't want to hear about illegal immigration and them taking jobs away when the same whites who whine about them collect food stamps/section 8/unemployment and whatever else they can from the government.
That is what President IKE did in the 1950's and it worked like a charm... Better than expected and it cause a mass self deportation to happen.
Operation W E T B A C K: The best government immigration plan ever devised. None since, have come close to doing the job it did.
The democrats around here keep saying it can't be done.
And I bet you like Hillary My wise old Grandpa always told me don't count your chicks before they're hatched or you work until it's done...
Nope.
I can't stand Hillary. I'd vote for almost anyone before I would vote for her. But that doesn't make Trump any less of a buffoon.
But you go ahead and hold onto your little fantasy reality TV star. He's playing you people like a fiddle. All Trump cares about is staying in the spotlight and he will say anything to do so. Trump is a joke and the people who are buying into his brand of stupid are simply poorly educated lemmings.
We have an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the US, which is about equal to the combined populations of NYC and Chicago. Trump says:
Immigrations & Customs Enforcement (ICE) has about 15,000 employees that deported over 400,000 illegal immigrants in 2013. In order to deport 11 million in a year's time(much less 'day one'), you're going to need a national immigration police force of over 400,000. Is that what Trump supporters want?
How are you going to round them up? Door to door searches? Once you round them up, how are you going to house, clothe and feed 11 million people until you can ship them to the border? And how are you going to ship them? Cattle cars? Are you going to have massive detention camps to sort out the legals from illegals, or just send them back and let Mexico sort 'em out? What if Mexico won't take them back? Mass executions?
How exactly is this all going to work?
1) You NEVER say we can't enforce our laws because of money or because they are too many lawbreakers and we should ignore them. Then we become a nation of chaos and anarchy. That is what separates the U.S.A to the 3rd world shiatholes these immigrants are escaping from.
2) As a President and the top law enforcer of the country he always has to set the tone to the country and world that nobody can break U.S. LAWS and get away with it especially foreigners. Every President took an oath and has ignored that oath.
3) By Trump setting the standard that NO foreigner will break U.S. LAW and get away with it, he sets the tone to every law enforcement agency in the country that the President has their backs. We won't get all 11 million (more like 20 million) but we sure can stop the big flows and start getting law and order. It starts at the top and it won't be overnight. This problem started decades ago and it won't get fix overnight.
4) You start by the border and secure it and educate immigrants there is ONLY 1 way to enter our country. Again, its like training puppies, you set the tone in what are our standards and laws and this is the only way foreigners will enter our country and we enforce it by law.......you don't set the tone and enforce laws doing what Obama and every president before him has done which is NOTHING!..again if the top law enforcer of the land allows it then shiat start rolling down hill.
5) You also don't give them welfare services and jobs and we must punish any employer that hires and pays an illegal under the table. That means government officials doing personal surprise audits of companies.
again, we know what to do and where to start but the politicians in Washington and the establishment refuses to do it. At least Trump is making a pledge in what to do and liberals who want to expand government and the welfare state say we don't have the money for law and order?????? what a joke!
Democrats want to give free stuff for everybody and make bigger the welfare state but say Trump's plan of law and order is too expensive?????
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