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Old 08-28-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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1) You NEVER say we can't enforce our laws because of money or because they are too many lawbreakers and we should ignore them. Then we become a nation of chaos and anarchy. That is what separates the U.S.A to the 3rd world shiatholes these immigrants are escaping from.

2) As a President and the top law enforcer of the country he always has to set the tone to the country and world that nobody can break U.S. LAWS and get away with it especially foreigners. Every President took an oath and has ignored that oath.


3) By Trump setting the standard that NO foreigner will break U.S. LAW and get away with it, he sets the tone to every law enforcement agency in the country that the President has their backs. We won't get all 11 million (more like 20 million) but we sure can stop the big flows and start getting law and order. It starts at the top and it won't be overnight. This problem started decades ago and it won't get fix overnight.

4) You start by the border and secure it and educate immigrants there is ONLY 1 way to enter our country. Again, its like training puppies, you set the tone in what are our standards and laws and this is the only way foreigners will enter our country and we enforce it by law.......you don't set the tone and enforce laws doing what Obama and every president before him has done which is NOTHING!..again if the top law enforcer of the land allows it then shiat start rolling down hill.

5) You also don't give them welfare services and jobs and we must punish any employer that hires and pays an illegal under the table. That means government officials doing personal surprise audits of companies.

again, we know what to do and where to start but the politicians in Washington and the establishment refuses to do it. At least Trump is making a pledge in what to do and liberals who want to expand government and the welfare state say we don't have the money for law and order?????? what a joke!

Democrats want to give free stuff for everybody and make bigger the welfare state but say Trump's plan of law and order is too expensive?????
At between $8,000 and $15,000 a head, just to put one child of an illegal alien thru school, not having so many illegals will save us a lot of taxpayer money just at the local level.
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Old 08-28-2015, 08:14 PM
 
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even if under Trumps administration he could only get 30% or 40% of the illegals especially the ones with criminal records in our country then that would be a success for LAW and ORDER and sets the tone to foreigners you can't violate U.S. laws and get away with it, their is a new sheriff in town.


When you set the standards and expectations HIGH you get success.....if you set them low or have none you have mediocrity and chaos.


Amnesty is OUT of the question and the American people are not going to support it.....So the question for liberals is what is your plan? set expectations high and demand that from foreigners that are here illegally or continue to ignore the border and use it only for political votes every 4 years and keep taking the Latino vote for granted.?
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Old 08-29-2015, 02:57 AM
 
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It's a job and they need bodies. Why don't you respect the work the illegals do instead of mock it? If they don't pick and harvest the crops, you don't eat.
^This is a bald faced lie.

Once again, farmers have an agricultural guest worker visa program that doesn't have any caps on it. There is no excuse for them not to use it.

Phony Farm Labor Shortage: We Need to Talk About It
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Old 08-29-2015, 04:00 AM
 
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How long before Donald Trump feels the fork implanted in his belly that's now obvious to everyone else due to David Duke's recent declared love of his policies. LOL...He'll carry the Hispanic vote revealed Donald Trump as a delusional individual before he even got the kiss of death from Duke. It's over for that chump and he doesn't even know it.

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Old 08-29-2015, 04:53 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Once you see public and frequent examples nationwide of employers being busted for hiring illegals the practice will considerably diminish. Make the penalties sufficiently stiff and they will prefer to use legal workers. The practice will still continue in some segments, as any criminal activity does. The other approach is to have a system in place to confirm the nationality of anyone who elects to send money out of the country via Western Union or bank transfer.

BTW, I am not a Trump fan.
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Old 08-29-2015, 05:01 AM
 
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We have an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the US, which is about equal to the combined populations of NYC and Chicago. Trump says:



Immigrations & Customs Enforcement (ICE) has about 15,000 employees that deported over 400,000 illegal immigrants in 2013. In order to deport 11 million in a year's time(much less 'day one'), you're going to need a national immigration police force of over 400,000. Is that what Trump supporters want?

How are you going to round them up? Door to door searches? Once you round them up, how are you going to house, clothe and feed 11 million people until you can ship them to the border? And how are you going to ship them? Cattle cars? Are you going to have massive detention camps to sort out the legals from illegals, or just send them back and let Mexico sort 'em out? What if Mexico won't take them back? Mass executions?

How exactly is this all going to work?
Use the military. We have at least 500,000 soldiers.

It will give them something to do besides being sent to fight wars that our politicians don't want to win.

If wussy Americans can't stomach that, then simply deport the illegals as we catch them.

We arrest at least a million Americans a year and put them through the criminal justice system, breaking up families when Daddy or Mommy is sent to prison.

We can do the same with illegals, who right now have more rights than American citizens.

Cattle cars and camps?

Why not?

I live in San Diego and constantly see border patrol buses with barred windows carrying illegal aliens to the border to be deported in Tijuana.

Our highways are just crammed with them -- it really slows things down during rush hour, but it goes on 24 hours a day.

Oh, wait.

It doesn't.

I haven't even seen ONE such bus in the 12 years I've lived here.

And the two border patrol inland check points we have in Oceanside and Temecula?

Driven through them a hundred times at least, and they've never been staffed....

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Old 08-29-2015, 05:24 AM
 
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1) You NEVER say we can't enforce our laws because of money or because they are too many lawbreakers and we should ignore them. Then we become a nation of chaos and anarchy. That is what separates the U.S.A to the 3rd world shiatholes these immigrants are escaping from.




2) As a President and the top law enforcer of the country he always has to set the tone to the country and world that nobody can break U.S. LAWS and get away with it especially foreigners. Every President took an oath and has ignored that oath.


3) By Trump setting the standard that NO foreigner will break U.S. LAW and get away with it, he sets the tone to every law enforcement agency in the country that the President has their backs. We won't get all 11 million (more like 20 million) but we sure can stop the big flows and start getting law and order. It starts at the top and it won't be overnight. This problem started decades ago and it won't get fix overnight.


4) You start by the border and secure it and educate immigrants there is ONLY 1 way to enter our country. Again, its like training puppies, you set the tone in what are our standards and laws and this is the only way foreigners will enter our country and we enforce it by law.......you don't set the tone and enforce laws doing what Obama and every president before him has done which is NOTHING!..again if the top law enforcer of the land allows it then shiat start rolling down hill.

5) You also don't give them welfare services and jobs and we must punish any employer that hires and pays an illegal under the table. That means government officials doing personal surprise audits of companies.



again, we know what to do and where to start but the politicians in Washington and the establishment refuses to do it. At least Trump is making a pledge in what to do and liberals who want to expand government and the welfare state say we don't have the money for law and order?????? what a joke!


Democrats want to give free stuff for everybody and make bigger the welfare state but say Trump's plan of law and order is too expensive?????
Best post ever on this subject. Congrats!
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Old 08-29-2015, 05:45 AM
 
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We need a fifty year moratorium on immigration, period.

Legal and illegal.

The legal immigrants we've been getting haven't been so great either -- e.g., the Tsarnaev brothers (Boston Bombing), the terrorists behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, etc.

Ann Coulter covers this extensively in her latest book.

We have an "immigration industry" of immigration lawyers, activist groups, judges who are nominated and appointed from those groups, and government bureaucrats who depend on massive immigration to keep their jobs as bureaucrats who deal with...massive immigration.

All these people need to lose their jobs.

That's the only way the madness is going to stop.

Yeah, it would be nice to have some Dutch, English and German immigrants.

But you can't have them without getting all the rest.

We admit more Muslim Somalians than all Western Europeans combined. Why?

I guess it must be because of all those Somalian nuclear scientists and astrophysicists.
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Old 08-29-2015, 07:24 AM
 
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How long before Donald Trump feels the fork implanted in his belly that's now obvious to everyone else due to David Duke's recent declared love of his policies. LOL...He'll carry the Hispanic vote revealed Donald Trump as a delusional individual before he even got the kiss of death from Duke. It's over for that chump and he doesn't even know it.
I see, so if one prostitute or drunk likes a particular policy of a candidate then that candidate is toast even if in turn the candidate doesn't endorse their behavior? You're grasping at straws here.
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Old 08-29-2015, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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How long before Donald Trump feels the fork implanted in his belly that's now obvious to everyone else due to David Duke's recent declared love of his policies. LOL...He'll carry the Hispanic vote revealed Donald Trump as a delusional individual before he even got the kiss of death from Duke. It's over for that chump and he doesn't even know it.
'

Trump will probably go into obscurity in the weeks and months ahead, but it will have nothing to do with David Duke. David Duke just simply isn't important enough to have any influence on anything.
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