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Old 08-31-2015, 02:31 PM
 
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Has heroin use been suppressed, amplified, or basically unaffected by such laws? Does "discourage" mean the same thing as "eliminate"?
This is the post that I responded to:

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I'm a gun owner, I believe in the right to own guns, and I don't believe that anything short of a total ban on firearms will prevent every gun murder. . . <<SNIP>>
Note the claim that a total ban on guns would prevent every gun murder.

As to your question, I really don't know. Are those that are pre-disposed to illegal drug use affected by laws prohibiting such activity?

 
Old 08-31-2015, 02:33 PM
 
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May want to check this site out or if you want more google "what does well-regulated mean in the 2nd Amendment".
The Constitution Society? Seriously? Isn't that a little like using The I Am Not a Crook Society for information about Watergate?
 
Old 08-31-2015, 02:35 PM
 
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The Constitution Society? Seriously? Isn't that a little like using The I Am Not a Crook Society for information about Watergate?
Google it as much as you want. Research it. I certainly do not expect you to take some strangers word off of the internet. If you truly wish to educate yourself then do the work.
 
Old 08-31-2015, 03:00 PM
 
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This is the post that I responded to: Note the claim that a total ban on guns would prevent every gun murder.
Not responsive to my post, nor was the claim made actually the one you report. There was no claim that an all-out ban would work. Just that nothing short of it would.

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As to your question, I really don't know. Are those that are pre-disposed to illegal drug use affected by laws prohibiting such activity?
We both really do know that they are affected. If not in their own inclinations, then in their own abilities actually to find and acquire such drugs as they might be inclined to seek.
 
Old 08-31-2015, 03:05 PM
 
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Google it as much as you want. Research it. I certainly do not expect you to take some strangers word off of the internet. If you truly wish to educate yourself then do the work.
I've been doing that for a long while. This is why I know so much about the topic. Your sources are moonbat purveyors of heterodox far-right libertarian claptrap.
 
Old 08-31-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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I've been doing that for a long while. This is why I know so much about the topic. Your sources are moonbat purveyors of heterodox far-right libertarian claptrap.
Interesting. I cant come up with any sources that say otherwise.
 
Old 08-31-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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It's pretty clear that few here have any sort of understanding of that topic.
Yes, you're proving that over and over.
 
Old 08-31-2015, 03:37 PM
 
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Guns do not kill people, but a person can kill someone. A gun locked away in a closet, or even laying openly on a table wouldn't kill anyone unless the gun discharges from a malfunction but even that is very rare and most modern guns are made not to fire unless the trigger is pulled. But a criminal can kill someone with a gun (or just about anything), and an irresponsible gun owner could.

Guns are not the problem, the problem is the demographics and the responsibility of *who* owns guns.
 
Old 08-31-2015, 03:49 PM
 
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Guns should only be owned by those willing to get the correct training. Not everyone is made to shoot a gun. I do believe everyone should learn some form of protection, for their own good.......it can be a dangerous world.
 
Old 08-31-2015, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Guns do not kill people, but a person can kill someone. A gun locked away in a closet, or even laying openly on a table wouldn't kill anyone unless the gun discharges from a malfunction but even that is very rare and most modern guns are made not to fire unless the trigger is pulled. But a criminal can kill someone with a gun (or just about anything), and an irresponsible gun owner could.

Guns are not the problem, the problem is the demographics and the responsibility of *who* owns guns.
Exactly …

The system of sales and background checks and safety training and all of it is entirely broken and dysfunctional. ...
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