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Old 09-03-2015, 03:38 PM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
LOL You're post is a joke.


My you have lemming mentality. Do what your handlers tell you to do.

because the Federal government has no authority

You poor thing.
Government involvement in marriage. bad.
Government ignoring religious persecution. bad
Federal government involvement when no ones rights have been violated, bad.

Try to think clearly for once. You can't therefore you are simply wrong.

Like Prohibition? Next please.
*Your

 
Old 09-03-2015, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Ok, privileges are covered under the 14 too.

The Fourteenth Amendment to the U. S. Constitution reads:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

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It's not about privileges either. THAT is what you don't get. It is about the Feds getting involved in something they never should have, on top of the religious persecution they are doing to Davis when in fact if anything they should be protecting it. On top of that, the states government shouldn't be involved in the marriage business either.
If anything, look at the history of government and YOU want them to be the deciders on marriage?

Get it yet?
thank you for playing.
 
Old 09-03-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: North America
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Thank you for bringing up rights. Marriage is not a right. It is one of the highest forms of liberty but it isn't a right.
Yes, it is. You can sit around with your fingers in your ears LALALALALALAing all you want. It does not change the facts that it is considered a right. Either get with the times, or get out of the way. Antiques like you have no place in modern society.
 
Old 09-03-2015, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Texas
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*Your
lol Thanks Good post for you anyway.
 
Old 09-03-2015, 03:43 PM
 
Location: North America
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lol Thanks Good post for you anyway.
 
Old 09-03-2015, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes, it is. You can sit around with your fingers in your ears LALALALALALAing all you want. It does not change the facts that it is considered a right. Either get with the times, or get out of the way. Antiques like you have no place in modern society.
It is not a right. If it was why do you have to ask government? It is a government granted privilege. Government doesn't grant rights. One has the right to live their life unencumbered. Same sex marriage? No problem. Forcing others to accept it, problem.

Big government freaks who need Uncle Sam to run their lives from cradle to grave while they use FORCE and COERCION even though no ones rights have been violated have no place in society period. Society doesn't progress through force or coercion. The Mafia does.
 
Old 09-03-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Yeledaf View Post
Re judicial,infallibility--- Dred Scott, anyone? Prohibition?
Interesting.

Dred Scott was a poor decision because it reinforced discrimination and bias. Legal decisions which prohibit discrimination and bias are expansions of liberty, and generally are soundly reasoned.

Prohibition wasn't judicial. It was legislative.
 
Old 09-03-2015, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Ok, privileges are covered under the 14 too.

The Fourteenth Amendment to the U. S. Constitution reads:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Thank YOU for playing.
While those who continue to descent and claim STATE law supersedes Federal adjudications in SCOTUS..Then, why do they constantly bring cases to SCOTUS to over rule some of their decisions of the past "Case Law"..All they are doing is challenging..and when get some things overturned..Celebrate in the Streets..while when their claim is decided differently...Ohhhh WHOA..different story..It's all of a sudden against "Religious Rights" or against "State Rights" or failing that..it comes down to 1st Amendment rights....

I see it pretty clearly..ALL of those arguments fail ( miserably) and yet extreme Evangelical types (Huckabee as an example) continue to spew forth ( BTW is an x-Governor) their view of the law/Constitution..It's became so clear just where the GOP party has gone..( IMO..OFF THE DEEP END). According to them..It's my way or highway..HATE immigrants/Illegals all murders etc/ Anchor babies must go ( thus illegal too) altered then to shift to blaming Asian folks who buy their way into USA to drop their baby's....

Man oh man..What a fiasco GOP has created..alienate ALL folks and only accept those they want to..never mind what the law of the and states!! AND these folks want to "Run the Country?"..Just shaking my head
 
Old 09-03-2015, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
It's not about privileges either. THAT is what you don't get. It is about the Feds getting involved in something they never should have, on top of the religious persecution they are doing to Davis when in fact if anything they should be protecting it. On top of that, the states government shouldn't be involved in the marriage business either.
If anything, look at the history of government and YOU want them to be the deciders on marriage?

Get it yet?
thank you for playing.
First you ask for a law.
When shown the law, you say that marriage is a privilege.
When shown privileges are covered, you go off on the "get government out of marriage"train.

Keep on moving those goal posts.
 
Old 09-03-2015, 03:47 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
It's not about privileges either. THAT is what you don't get. It is about the Feds getting involved in something they never should have, on top of the religious persecution they are doing to Davis when in fact if anything they should be protecting it. On top of that, the states government shouldn't be involved in the marriage business either.
If anything, look at the history of government and YOU want them to be the deciders on marriage?

Get it yet?
thank you for playing.
We do get it.

This is now the default position of people opposed to same-sex marriage. That government shouldn't be involved in marriage. By all means, please write your legislator about how you want all the benefits and advantages of marriage taken away. I'm sure married people nationwide will pile on the bandwagon.
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