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You get a vote and that is how you protest where your tax dollars go. If you don't like that, then there are options like leaving for good.
Or you could be homeless and live under a bridge.
Voting for your master doesn't make you less of a slave, and the other two points are "if you don't like it, you can leave" which depends on the social contract. Why do I have to leave? My job, friends, and family are all here. I'd rather just be left alone, and have others left alone so we're able to have a voluntary society.
Not that I can think of. It used to be divine right of kings, but people don't believe that politicians/rulers have the right to rule from God anymore...so the social contract was what replaced that.
What would be the better or best replacement for the social contract?
What would be the better or best replacement for the social contract?
I don't think there is a replacement. The only way that someone (or a group of people) can have legitimate authority over others, meaning they have the moral right to control others by force, is if those people agreed to that deal. If they didn't agree to be ruled, it can't be legitimate. Consent is the key...just like consent is the difference between rape and love-making, trade and theft, etc. If both sides consent, it's okay. If one has it forced on them, it isn't okay.
I don't think there is a replacement. The only way that someone (or a group of people) can have legitimate authority over others, meaning they have the moral right to control others by force, is if those people agreed to that deal. If they didn't agree to be ruled, it can't be legitimate. Consent is the key...just like consent is the difference between rape and love-making, trade and theft, etc. If both sides consent, it's okay. If one has it forced on them, it isn't okay.
I thought I'd get at least one person who tried to defend it, but I guess not. The worst part is that they'll still continue to use it in their arguments. "You live in our society, so you play by our rules", "you use government roads and infrastructure, police, fire services, etc.", "if you don't like government, move to Somalia"...
Whenever I mention that it's only okay to use force in retaliation to someone else using force first, and that applies to the government as well, it creates a lot of cognitive dissonance in people. The only options are a) you consent to it, so it's okay (which obviously isn't true), or b) they're just threatening you if you don't do what they want, because you happen to be in their territory (which isn't rightfully owned by them). It's the mafia model, except it's only sustainable if people think the whole thing is legitimate.
I knew responses would be anemic. I'll give CheGeekGuest credit for at least attempting to engage.
As for the other 99.9% on this forum who fall under "statist" they are too busy arguing over how armed robbers should spend the money stolen from them after the stick up.
I'd rather figure out the chicken-or-the-egg paradigm before engaging in that nonsense.
Birth. Human born free, free from social contract.
EDIT: Implementation implies a contract of some sort. Contract law for those who want it. Nothing for those that want nothing.
Parents or guardians would decide if their infants desired contract law or nothing? At what age would the person decide for themselves?
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Originally Posted by No_Recess
Contract law.
Sounds a bit complicated. There would be many contracts, many more than the number of people living in a particular area. There would be benefits & disadvantages to this method.
Sounds a bit complicated. There would be many contracts, many more than the number of people living in a particular area. There would be benefits & disadvantages to this method.
That is the way it is with anything. I don't believe that social contract theory is the best way but it is the only way. Volunteerism has no teeth to it besides sanctions and boycotts which can be ineffective. If you and I have a disagreement, there is no force forcing me into court if you decide to use the legal system.
Registered births are added to the treasury ,they are state property.
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