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There might be rational reasons for all this. If so, they have not operated in any other part of the world, where the strong always conquer and the weak always perish. Only with Israel has this law not prevailed.
The Jews/Israelis, like the Americans aren't perfect. But we're pretty damned good. I suspect much of the world has a love/hate relationship with Jews. They would not want to do without Jewish inventions or professional services. Or Israel's hi-tech productivity.
Yet the Jews are a minority people that has survived and succeeded by staying outside the rules. In its otherwise dismal European era, from about the turn of the Common Era until the mass migrations to America preceding the Holocaust (and ended conclusively by the Holocaust) the Jews were the world's first example of deregulation. The Church had extensive rules regulating economic activity. There were cartels, guilds and other restrictions on trade. The Jews, being outside the Church were subject only to such rules laid down by civil authorities. Until the Napoleonic Codes those were few and far between. The British regulated with a relatively light hand. So the Jews had some major advantages.
The non-Jews were of course envious. But they couldn't live without the Jews either. Witness, as mentioned by Troyfan, Britain's repeated expulsions and readmissions of the Jews. When the late 19th Century pogroms, which morphed into the Holocaust finally had their desired effect of largely running the Jews out of Europe and ultimately killing them, Israel sprang up as the substitute home for the Jews, along with the U.S. and Canada. Thus, people now look for reasons to despise Israel.
"In as much as there are numerous Arab Muslims living in Israel, Gaza, the west bank, etc, please explain what ethnic cleaning you're talking about. "
Israel seized the West Bank and East Jerusalem by force and is currently in the process of settling the land and removing its original inhabitants -- all clear violations of the Fourth Geneva Convention.
"Thus, people now look for reasons to despise Israel.
Old wine in new bottles."
I "despise" all of the countries that are currently in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention, specifically, Section III, Article 49. Thankfully, it's an extremely short list.
God never gave anyone a piece of land big enough to build a doghouse on.
Israel's right to the land is based on their ability to strong-arm, hold, and defend it. A bazillion groups have laid claims to that land since the beginning.
And the day another group can strong-arm it from the israelis, then THEY have a right to it so long as they can hold it.
If there is a god, he gives less than a damn about human quarrels over land. Especially land as crappy as what Israel sits on.
I'd give my "chosen people" better land than that.
Wow!!! How special
Well look what they did with that land. Forests and farming in the desert.
How's that working out for the rest of the Middle East?
"Well look what they did with that land. Forests and farming in the desert.
How's that working out for the rest of the Middle East?"
Who cares about the Middle East? It's a ****hole from north to south, east to west. Its only redeeming feature is oil. No, on the basis of resources alone, here are God's true "chosen" people:
Who cares about the Middle East? It's a ****hole from north to south, east to west. Its only redeeming feature is oil. No, on the basis of resources alone, here are God's true "chosen" people:
Israel seized the West Bank and East Jerusalem by force and is currently in the process of settling the land and removing its original inhabitants -- all clear violations of the Fourth Geneva Convention.
There is no violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Israel seized Yehuda and Shomron after Jordan started a war against it in 1967. In 1988 Jordan declared that it has absolutely no claims about those territories. So they are not "occupied" anymore.
removing its original inhabitants? What are you talking about?
Israel seized the West Bank and East Jerusalem by force and is currently in the process of settling the land and removing its original inhabitants -- all clear violations of the Fourth Geneva Convention.
Did you never pick up a history book?? Gaza was part of Egypt until 1967. And likewise, the West Bank was Jordan's land. They both lost a war they started.
In any case, a very simple search on the aftermath of the 6-day war will teach you that Israel offered the WB and Gaza back to both Egypt and Jordan in exchange for peace. THEY REFUSED.
It's amazing what a limited understanding of historical facts some people have. What a shame. Then again, I suspect that's by design.
Israel seized the West Bank and East Jerusalem by force and is currently in the process of settling the land and removing its original inhabitants -- all clear violations of the Fourth Geneva Convention.
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Originally Posted by drishmael
I "despise" all of the countries that are currently in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention, specifically, Section III, Article 49. Thankfully, it's an extremely short list.
Does the Fourth Geneva Convention freeze all human habitation in existing locations? Has ISIS violated this convention by displacing millions of people?
"There is no violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Israel seized Yehuda and Shomron after Jordan started a war against it in 1967. In 1988 Jordan declared that it has absolutely no claims about those territories. So they are not "occupied" anymore."
Accepting your premise that Israel annexed the West Bank in 1988, the preceding settlement activity was nonetheless illegal and Palestinian refugees must be allowed to return and reclaim their property (Section III, Article 49). Also, now that the West Bank is part of Israel, Arabs/Muslims living in the region must be afforded all the rights of citizenship, to include suffrage. Denying the residents of Ramallah (Muslim & Christian) liberties enjoyed by the residents of Modi'in Illit (a Haredi Jewish settlement 10 miles west) is de facto apartheid.
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"removing its original inhabitants? What are you talking about?"
Bulldozing existing villages and colonizing the territory = removing its original inhabitants.
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"Did you never pick up a history book?? Gaza was part of Egypt until 1967. And likewise, the West Bank was Jordan's land. They both lost a war they started."
The Six-Day War started on July 5th, 1967, when Israel preemptively attacked Egypt. And Israel's victory doesn't entitle it to do whatever it likes to the vanquished. A certain German leader felt that way, which is why there are 2 million fewer Jews living today than there were in 1940. Did you never pick up a history book?!
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"Does the Fourth Geneva Convention freeze all human habitation in existing locations? Has ISIS violated this convention by displacing millions of people?"
No, no, of course not -- ISIS is a venerated organization and member of the international community in good standing /s. Couldn't you have grasped for a lower common denominator? Are the Khmer Rouge and the Visigoths too obscure? Are National Socialism and Stalinism too cliched?
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