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Old 09-20-2015, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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What is this fascination with Jews? I seriously don't understand it.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:07 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Okay, so we're agreed that Israel preemptively attacked Egypt (whether justified or not).
Sure, why not. No need to re-write a Treaty. Egypt can have the Gaza Strip back right now and Egypt can attempt to create it's step to Statehood. Israel can close all the border gates into the Gaza Strip and cut all power lines. One less headache for Israel. And when the first rocket comes out of Gaza, that's war. Thus Israel can go back in again and re-take the entire Sinai. But this time around, Egypt gets all the Gazans.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:11 PM
 
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What is this fascination with Jews? I seriously don't understand it.
The Jews also don't understand it 4,000 years already.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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[font=&quot]Why Shouldn't Jews Have Their Own State - Humans Haven't Stopped Migrating
They already do.

[what's the issue here?]
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:27 PM
 
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Sure, why not. No need to re-write a Treaty. Egypt can have the Gaza Strip back right now and Egypt can attempt to create it's step to Statehood. Israel can close all the border gates into the Gaza Strip and cut all power lines. One less headache for Israel. And when the first rocket comes out of Gaza, that's war. Thus Israel can go back in again and re-take the entire Sinai. But this time around, Egypt gets all the Gazans.
Works for me.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:29 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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.... The real question is, what is the legal status of the West Bank? Is it occupied or annexed? If it's the former, Israel's settlements are illegal; if it's the latter, Israel is an apartheid state.
Jordan attacked Israel. Jordan lost the war. Jordan can have back all their citizens since they named it the West Bank of the TransJordan River. After the the Peace Treaty with Jordan, Jordan gave up all land rights to the West Bank thus it is neither occupied or annexed. The region is known as Judea and Samaria and it all belongs to Israel. Thanks to the graciousness of Israel, any Arab that can show a deed of ownership dated before 1948 gets to keep that land and has the option of becoming a tax paying Israeli citizen. Others Arabs with clean backgrounds can also stay and become part of Israeli society or leave. Israel is not building settlements, it is building cities on deedless property.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:40 PM
 
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Responding to Post 3, you left out Malaysia, Indonesia, Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco, all of which control vast swaths of unused land. All of whose leaders have fat Swiss bank accounts.
Arab and Muslim have different meanings. Even many of the countries on the map are not Arab. You can also be Arab and Christian.
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Old 09-20-2015, 09:40 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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What is this fascination with Jews? I seriously don't understand it.
I started the thread. I am an American and a Jew and had a right to start the thread. What's your beef with that?
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They already do.

[what's the issue here?]
The post is about efforts to delegitimize Israel. Also it's about efforts to uniquely strip Israel of the right to hold conquered land after the aggressors lose a war. And about hypocrisy of those who old Israel to impossible standards while holding countries such as Russia or China to no standards at all. I.e. they seize land, e.g. Crimea or Tibet, because they can. When are the Russians going to return the Kurile Islands to Japan? Or Kaliningrad (Danzig) to Poland?
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:45 PM
 
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Wow!!! How special

Well look what they did with that land. Forests and farming in the desert.

How's that working out for the rest of the Middle East?
Lol...am I supposed to be impressed? Israel is the only country in the Middle East with cultivated land and everyone else is starving?

SIGH...stop it. You're being silly.
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Who believes a person who says I'm not anti-Semitic, I'm anti-Israel? I sure as hell don't.
I sure as hell say it and don't see any valid necessary connection between the two.
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