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Old 09-17-2015, 12:13 PM
 
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You must be watching media sound-bites...


Christie brought it up, when he bashed the media for creating a schoolyard brawl on non-issues, over things that do not matter to the middle class and the impoverished.


I believe Walker mentioned the shrinking middle class.
Ted Cruz did too.
Christie is trying to up his poll numbers. It's all for show. He's just another bought and paid for politician who says all the right things to get elected, and then does nothing or the opposite once he gets in. Same with Walker.

Cruz is too bizarre to relate to a large block of the population although his heart is in the right place.

 
Old 09-17-2015, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Y-Town Area
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Can any of you name a list of things that the Republicans
have done for the poor or the middle class ?
Which Republican candidate would do the above and why ?
 
Old 09-17-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Can any of you name a list of things that the Republicans
have done for the poor or the middle class ?
Which Republican candidate would do the above and why ?
Can you name a list of things Democrats have recently done to help the poor, illegals, crossing our borders? Like they are not competing with those that legally entered our Country or our poor.

Give us a break; you have to stop looking at the Republicans versus the Democrats. There are just as many bad Republicans as Democrats. Both Parties are having a party at the expense of the poor and middle class.
 
Old 09-17-2015, 01:10 PM
 
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[quote=Kerby W-R;41231354]Not one. They are all supported by the billionaires who only care about
getting richer while the middle class dwindles and the number of poor
people grows. Over 47 million people are living in poverty.......

Yep, democrat billionaires like Zuckerberg, Buffett, Bill Gates, Howard Schultz, etc., and all the hollywood producers and media moguls.....etc, etc.......
 
Old 09-17-2015, 01:18 PM
 
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Lightbulb CNN Dog & Pony Show, err I mean Debate. Who Won, Who Lost?

My opinion....

Winners
  • Donald Trump - This spectacle established that he is the front runner. Like FOX, CNN's hit job failed to hit the target. All the other candidates and MSM recognize this now. All the silly predictions that he would fall out by now or wasn't serious are just memories. By all accounts, at this point in time, he will be the GOP nominee.
Losers
  • JEB - Failed to knock it out of the ballpark which is what he needed at this point. Furthermore he cooked his own goose when he was forced to say his brother did a good job. He will be running on his brother's record as long as he stays in the race. And standing on his tip-toes during the kumbaya moment photo op speaks of TIB (typical idjit behavior) common with the Bush family
  • Florina - Came off as the Wicked Witch of the West. All that was missing was the flying monkeys. Then again, why are we talking about her?
  • Carson - Who? Needs to get over that germ thing. This is the only thing that people will remember about him and this debate.
  • Rand Paul - Like Father, Like Son. Says a lot of good things, but never delivers.
  • Rest of GOP - Doesn't matter.
  • CNN - Only proved they are not credible at anything these days.
  • King Hillary Clinton - Every GOP debate keeps her from making any point beyond server gate.
 
Old 09-17-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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Can any of you name a list of things that the Republicans
have done for the poor or the middle class ?
Which Republican candidate would do the above and why ?
Lowing taxes on the middle class and poor.

Trying to eliminate capital gains tax.

Ultimately, the best way to help the middle class and poor is to boost the economy. Giving money doesn't help them it just makes them dependent on governement with little chance to get out.

Liberal policies have been killing the middle class. They want to increases taxes on gas, fines, fees, pretty much everything, which hurts the middle and poor class the most. Just look at California, they want to increase the gas tax another 6 cents per gallon plus increase car regristration $65 and it's already the highest in the country.
 
Old 09-17-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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Can any of you name a list of things that the Republicans
have done for the poor or the middle class ?
Which Republican candidate would do the above and why ?
Thank you for pointing this out. It's the major difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals always demand that the government or some other entity step up to give them stuff, or do stuff for them. Conservatives, on the other hand, prefer to be self-dependent and generally prefer the government to get out of the way so they can provide for themselves and their own. It's why most young people are liberal (they're used to their parents and other caregivers providing them with stuff) and older people tend to be conservative.
 
Old 09-17-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Trump continues to lead in the numbers, of course, but this was the first time I saw him looking vulnerable and defensive. Relatively flat performance to his past bombastic attacks. This was actually the first time he was on the defensive. It was pretty flat. Fiorina got the biggest reactions in the room and online.

See here... Google trends in the first and last debate. Look at Fiorina vs. Trump.

Trump better improve going forward or people will start to close the gap. He can start by not sticking his foot in his mouth with stupid sexist, racist insults that give his opponents ammo against him and instead gaining some real substance to his policy proposals.





Soure: Washington Post Donald Trump’s flat debate performance, visualized - The Washington Post
 
Old 09-17-2015, 01:42 PM
 
Location: USA = 2017 New Venezuela
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From worst to Best

···Losers·····
Trump
Huckabee
Walker
Cruz
Christie
····Whatever····
Bush
Carson
Kasich
······winners····
Fiorina
Paul
Rubio
 
Old 09-17-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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Carly won. Rubio second, Christi/ Bush tied for third.
It's the beginning of the end for Trump!
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