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Old 04-28-2008, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Manitoba
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2002 no Al Quada in Iraq, 2008 now they say there is less Al quaeda in Iraq. How did Al Quaeda got in Iraq in the first place?

 
Old 04-28-2008, 09:26 PM
 
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2002 no Al Quada in Iraq, 2008 now they say there is less Al quaeda in Iraq. How did Al Quaeda got in Iraq in the first place?
Being kept busy.
 
Old 04-29-2008, 01:42 PM
 
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Lightbulb Al Qaeda no longer has substantial control of any area of Iraq.

The never did.

Al Qaeda is a very minor player in the Iraq insurgency, something like 10%.
 
Old 04-29-2008, 02:31 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Really?Cite please.

Thanks.
 
Old 04-29-2008, 03:07 PM
 
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The never did.

Al Qaeda is a very minor player in the Iraq insurgency, something like 10%.
You are right. Most of the 'insurgents' are Iraqis who were hopeful at the start, then turned against us when they saw our true intentions, ie, billion dollar oasis, while you go without clean water or electricity, get rounded up and imprisoned or shot. Many are former police and military who saw their jobs summarily disappear by the genius Paul Bremmer (gold star from Bush - way to go Bremmie!)
 
Old 04-29-2008, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Al Qaeda did establish a presence in the power vaccuum provided by our invasion, but the larger threats are the Shia Sadr army and the disenfranchised Sunni militias we armed to combat the Al Qaeda Iraqi presence.

By contrast, I would be gravely concerned about the Al Qaeda resurgence in Pakistan and Afghanistan. According to U.S. recent National Intelligence Estimates they have revitalized their internal structure and nurtured Western recruits from this safe haven.
 
Old 04-29-2008, 11:12 PM
 
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Al Qaeda did establish a presence in the power vaccuum provided by our invasion, but the larger threats are the Shia Sadr army and the disenfranchised Sunni militias we armed to combat the Al Qaeda Iraqi presence.

By contrast, I would be gravely concerned about the Al Qaeda resurgence in Pakistan and Afghanistan. According to U.S. recent National Intelligence Estimates they have revitalized their internal structure and nurtured Western recruits from this safe haven.
The Shia are a bigger threat than Saddam ever was, because they are strict Islamic Fundamentalist, and even Saddam knew that they needed to be controlled. Saddam could basicly be bought off, but Bush in his infinite wisdom, decided to remove him, so he could play 'commander-in-chief'.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:17 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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The Shia are a bigger threat than Saddam ever was, because they are strict Islamic Fundamentalist, and even Saddam knew that they needed to be controlled. Saddam could basicly be bought off, but Bush in his infinite wisdom, decided to remove him, so he could play 'commander-in-chief'.
So Iran is a greater danger than Iraq was?
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:56 AM
 
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I just love the use of language in this thread topic header.

" Al Qaeda no longer has substantial control of any area of Iraq." As though Al Qaeda ever had substantial control over any area in Iraq. Might as well have titled it, Saddam no longer has control over his nuclear weapons or Russia no longer has control over Alaska or Hugo Chavez no longer has substantial control over Jupiter.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 08:10 AM
 
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Anbar Province was controlled by Al Qaeda in Iraq.

Funny how people seem to dismiss the obvious thing here...

We are fighting Al Qaeda IN Iraq....the same group that attacked the USA on 9/11.

Yet somehow this is wrong.

Some seem to miss the obvious.
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