Wow Biden says abortion is wrong and life begins at conception (illegal, controversial)
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Here's the flaw in your thinking. Most liberals don't give a damn what people believe in their personal lives, just so long as they don't attempt to force their own beliefs on everyone else. It seems to be a difficult distinction for those on the right to grasp.
Puh-leaze. Liberals are constantly up-in-arms over something that somebody said.
If abortion were to be banned who would pay for all the little bastards? Would you adopt one of these unwanted children?
You damn sure don't want any tax increases. Just how would you propose society take care of the result of an abortion ban?
This argument illustrates the problem. You're asking "who will pay for" the children who would have ordinarily been aborted, while us pro-lifer's are simply asking the pro-abortionists to merely exercise personal responsibility on the front side (ie. birth control, abstinence, condoms, etc.) instead of on the back side (abortion).
One of the hardest things for a person to do is to get pregnant. It defies logic and common sense to suggest that we MUST have abortion-on-demand instead of demanding that people be personally responsible for their actions, including having sex!
Abortion is not "personal responsibility." It's a cop out for being woefully irresponsible person.
I just say I respect the man because the militant liberals will absolutely see red and be frothing at the mouth that Biden said anything against the alter of their Atheism which is abortion.
The babies are the sacrifices to their God. Simply the truth.
I don't think you understand the pro-choice position. It is about people being allowed to make their own decisions without government interference.
That used to be a conservative value but they have gone astray.
I don't think you understand the pro-choice position. It is about people being allowed to make their own decisions without government interference.
That used to be a conservative value but they have gone astray.
So that's your stance on things? All right, I've decided that I don't want to let black people eat in my restaurant. I don't want the government interfering with that, either. Sound good?
This argument illustrates the problem. You're asking "who will pay for" the children who would have ordinarily been aborted, while us pro-lifer's are simply asking the pro-abortionists to merely exercise personal responsibility on the front side (ie. birth control, abstinence, condoms, etc.) instead of on the back side (abortion).
One of the hardest things for a person to do is to get pregnant. It defies logic and common sense to suggest that we MUST have abortion-on-demand instead of demanding that people be personally responsible for their actions, including having sex!
Abortion is not "personal responsibility." It's a cop out for being woefully irresponsible person.
Spoken like a member of the gender who is 50% responsible for all unintended pregnancies, wants to take 0% responsibility for them, but wants 100% control over the gender who will be made to bear the burden.
And before I get flamed, let me be clear that I don't believe all men want to take 0% responsibility, but that assessment seems to fit Conservative males in this forum quite well.
Spoken like a member of the gender who is 50% responsible for all unintended pregnancies, wants to take 0% responsibility for them, but wants 100% control over the gender who will be made to bear the burden.
And before I get flamed, let me be clear that I don't believe all men want to take 0% responsibility, but that assessment seems to fit Conservative males in this forum quite well.
If your intent is to bring the Absentee Father Generation into this discussion, then you should be prepared for statistics that might make your eyeballs bleed, particularly if you are a black male and/or if you seek to somehow make excuses for the segment of society who bares the most responsibility for this circumstance.
So that's your stance on things? All right, I've decided that I don't want to let black people eat in my restaurant. I don't want the government interfering with that, either. Sound good?
You illustrate the critical difference between a woman still gestating a fetus in her own autonomous body and a fully autonomous person living in society.
Q: What role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion?
RYAN: I don't see how a person can separate their public life from their private life or from their faith.
BIDEN: My religion defines who I am. And I've been a practicing Catholic my whole life. And it has particularly informed my social doctrine. Catholic social doctrine talks about taking care of those who can't take care of themselves, people who need help. With regard to abortion, I accept my church's position that life begins at conception. That's the church's judgment. I accept it in my personal life. But I refuse to impose it on equally devout Christians and Muslims and Jews and--I just refuse to impose that on others, unlike my friend here, the congressman. I do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that women can't control their body. It's a decision between them and their doctor, in my view. And the Supreme Court--I'm not going to interfere with that.
Here's the flaw in your thinking. Most liberals don't give a damn what people believe in their personal lives, just so long as they don't attempt to force their own beliefs on everyone else. It seems to be a difficult distinction for those on the right to grasp.
Both sides have ideas that they want to force on others, so it's just two sides of the same coin. If you were talking about classical liberals, I'd be more prone to agree with what you said. Live and let live.
As for Biden, I'm not a fan of his at all, but I respect him for not taking the easy route by following party lines...he's sticking to a principle regardless of what his peers might say.
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