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Old 09-23-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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You misconstrue the point. Yes, he's a global guy. And his teachings are within the teachings of the Church. But that's not the point. The point is that Democrats are seeking to co-opt his religious message for political gain. The Pope made it clear in his quote that he's not a leftist. What other way is there to interpret his quote when Democrats have made it clear they intend to capitalize off of his words for political purposes? Do you think he was merely saying he's not a leftist just for the heck of it? Or do you think he was posturing to deflect the criticisms he's sure to receive for aligning with Democrats, whether intentionally or intentionally?
The point is nonsensical.

The Pope doesn't care what political label supports his agenda. He only cares about furthering his agenda.

He answered someone's question, from his own personal perspective, which is not the perspective of an American.

 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:07 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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the pope claims he is not a liberal, and yet he constantly makes statements to the contrary. he is constantly pushing liberal causes. only judging a man by his words and deeds.

Why do you consider them liberal causes?

Is a cause liberal because at its essence it is a liberal viewpoint? Or because liberals support it?

Those aren't the same thing.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Has anybody ever wondered why the mainstream media was always so hung-ho and in love with Pope Francis when he first became Pope....while they completely ignored, to the point of disdain, Pope Benedict?

Every wonder why?
Pope Benedict was the same old close-mouthed, dismissive, stodgy, old-europe figurehead that the masses don't care for. Pope Francis is a marketable superstar in comparison, and an overdo selection from outside of Europe.

Pope Francis is the worst thing to happen to the Republican party since Bush/Cheney.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:11 AM
 
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Has anybody ever wondered why the mainstream media was always so hung-ho and in love with Pope Francis when he first became Pope....while they completely ignored, to the point of disdain, Pope Benedict?

Every wonder why?
Easy answer. This Pope is liberal. Both guilty Catholics and atheist liberals alike love how he's cheapened the moral position held by all previous Pope's regarding homosexuals, abortion, etc.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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The Pope can save it for somewhere else. We have "separation of church and state" and I thought the Dems were the ones insisting that we keep it that way. There is constant criticism of the GOP taking a stand on religious issues and now the Pope wants to show up and shake his finger at us? Ah, he has enough issues within his own realm, those working below him to put his nose into.

I'm not into the Catholic thing but this Pope Francis, is this who is being discussed: Why So Many People Think Pope Francis Is the Antichrist ? Charisma News
 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:26 AM
 
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The point is nonsensical.

The Pope doesn't care what political label supports his agenda. He only cares about furthering his agenda.

He answered someone's question, from his own personal perspective, which is not the perspective of an American.
Disagree. Completely. The Pope made it clear that he did not want to be viewed as a leftist, even as his policies align with leftist Democrats in America. It is absolutely not a coincidence that he disavowed liberalism prior to his arrival in the US. He did so because he knows that politicizing his moral message is the best way to be zeroed in on by Democrats' opponents within and outside the party.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:27 AM
 
Location: CT
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I see no connection between your comment, the Pope's quote, and Democratic intent. Different topic for a different thread.
Oh, OK, I see now, you're blind on your left side. Sorry about that.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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Disagree. Completely. The Pope made it clear that he did not want to be viewed as a leftist
A leftist in the global sense, or a leftist in the American sense. Two very different things.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:28 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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I wonder why the pope didn't mention the imprisoned dissidents in Cuba when he was there. Didn't want to offend the Castro brothers? Or maybe he just didn't care.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:29 AM
 
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The problem for you OP is that your trying to put the Pope in a box in your efforts to define his recent remarks as him trying not to be boxed in by American Politcal Ideology.
How is that a problem? His words are his words.
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