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Old 09-24-2015, 11:21 AM
 
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When the Pope pushes a "moral obligation" backed by religion, it makes hypocrites out of every living, breathing supportive Democrat and liberal in America:

1) Keep Kim Davis's religious views out of government!
2) Take the Pope's religious views on American social policy and incorporate them into government law and regulation!

Both of which affect American's, but only one of which liberals support!

The hypocrisy is downright disgusting!
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Old 09-24-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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Old 09-24-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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Is that supposed to mean something? I'm not familiar.
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Old 09-24-2015, 11:36 AM
 
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When the Pope pushes a "moral obligation" backed by religion, it makes hypocrites out of every living, breathing supportive Democrat and liberal in America:

1) Keep Kim Davis's religious views out of government!
2) Take the Pope's religious views on American social policy and incorporate them into government law and regulation!

Both of which affect American's, but only one of which liberals support!

The hypocrisy is downright disgusting!
Here's the difference, AeroGuy, though I have to say it's kind of sad that something so elementary has to be explained to you.

Kim Davis, when she is doing her job, represents the U.S. government. That means that she must adhere to the laws of the government she represents and not to her own personal religious views.

The Pope represents the Catholic Church, who, the last time I checked, has no power in the U.S. government to create laws.

Now maybe there are some Democrats who agree with his words and would like to implement some of those ideas into laws, but that's no different than the Republicans wanting to incorporate Netanyahu's beliefs into laws or policies as well.

Two different heads of state stated their personal beliefs to Congress, but you only seem upset about one of them. Why is that?
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Old 09-24-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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You just had a thread on this topic and got defeated. I hate to see you go 0-2 but...

Here's the difference: Kim Davis is directly breaking the law and violating her obligation under it as a government employee.

The Pope is a visiting non-citizen making general suggestions to improve society and our nation, the implementation of which does not inherently violate the law.
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Old 09-24-2015, 11:39 AM
 
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You should have left Davis out of the discussion. The hypocrisy argument could have been made without her in it.
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Old 09-24-2015, 11:39 AM
 
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Here's the difference, AeroGuy, though I have to say it's kind of sad that something so elementary has to be explained to you.

Kim Davis, when she is doing her job, represents the U.S. government. That means that she must adhere to the laws of the government she represents and not to her own personal religious views.

The Pope represents the Catholic Church, who, the last time I checked, has no power in the U.S. government to create laws.

Now maybe there are some Democrats who agree with his words and would like to implement some of those ideas into laws, but that's no different than the Republicans wanting to incorporate Netanyahu's beliefs into laws or policies as well.

Two different heads of state stated their personal beliefs to Congress, but you only seem upset about one of them. Why is that?
1) She did not, never has, and probably never will "represent the US government." She's a county-level clerk. The USG had no bearing whatsoever on state-level marriage licenses.

2) No one, especially me, asserted that the Pope "creates laws." Your strawman is dead on arrival.

If this is your very best, then you should be very, very embarrassed.
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Old 09-24-2015, 11:40 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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When the Pope pushes a "moral obligation" backed by religion, it makes hypocrites out of every living, breathing supportive Democrat and liberal in America:

1) Keep Kim Davis's religious views out of government!
2) Take the Pope's religious views on American social policy and incorporate them into government law and regulation!

Both of which affect American's, but only one of which liberals support!

The hypocrisy is downright disgusting!
Funny that you should point that out. I made the same observation in one of my recent posts.
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Old 09-24-2015, 11:41 AM
 
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You should have left Davis out of the discussion. The hypocrisy argument could have been made without her in it.
I agree. But feel free to elaborate on your position.
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Old 09-24-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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1) She did not, never has, and probably never will "represent the US government." She's a county-level clerk. The USG had no bearing whatsoever on state-level marriage licenses.

2) No one, especially me, asserted that the Pope "creates laws." Your strawman is dead on arrival.

If this is your very best, then you should be very, very embarrassed.
Counties are part of the U.S. and beholden to its laws.

You seem very angry that people have strong moral foundations without agreeing with you.

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