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We need a strategy. Practically if we leave it alone the Taliban will rebuild and it becomes a new center for organizing, training and equiping attacks on the US or other westerners. Virtually guaranteed.
Perhaps go in every time they rebuild a threat and destroy it?
Or leave a couple of heavy bases behind who do search and destroy if the Afghanis start up radical Muslim ops?
Can't simply leave unfortunately. Got to go in and cut off the heads of the dragons every few years.
Maybe in a couple of generations they or we will tire of it?
Terrorists will always find a place to go. Afghanistan is a vast country. No government in Kabul will ever be able to control those borders. That's a pipe dream.
They Afghans will NEVER tire of fighting invaders. It's what they've been doing for millennia...we will never subdue the Taliban and it's senseless to think that we can.
The Taliban have a right to fight for control of their own country, and Americans have no right to tell them that they can't.
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We abandoned them once before and look how that turned out for us.
I don't like being there either, and I don't pretend to know what the correct answer is, but I do know it is not a simple one.
No...we didn't abandon them. That's not true. When the Soviets departed, we stepped in. Not in a major way, but our big noses were right there as usual.
Afghanistan is a tribal nation. It can't be ruled from Kabul anymore if it ever could. No government with American fingerprints on it will ever have legitimacy.
We are wasting time, money and lives in a futile attempt to give Afghanistan something that WE want. They didn't ask for it and won't have it forced on them.
The problem is that if we leave the Taliban and other terrorist organizations will take advantage of the void and use the country as a huge terrorist camp. We'll only have to go back in every few years and sort things out like the British back in the 1840s, 1870s, 1880s, 1919, etc, etc.
Everything is all out of wack because the American people have been duped into believing that the Taliban is a terrorist group hell bent on our destruction, but that's a lie and the people that spread it know it's a lie. They just want to keep this nonsense going.
Time to abandon that country and those people.
So, the taliban killing females who go to school is a lie?
Not for nothing, but your guy Barry said that the Afghanistan campaign was noble.
I agree that we should just get out...especially since Barry's bunch has no intention of winning.
The problem is that if we leave the Taliban and other terrorist organizations will take advantage of the void and use the country as a huge terrorist camp. We'll only have to go back in every few years and sort things out like the British back in the 1840s, 1870s, 1880s, 1919, etc, etc.
The Taliban isn't a terrorist organization. And if the country becomes a hangout for terror groups, then you deal with that accordingly. That's not a reason to maintain a permanent presence there. Use Intel and spec-ops to fight terror groups.
But this nonsense of trying to set up a Democracy and supporting a government that will NEVER be able to run the country is fool's gold.
No...we didn't abandon them. That's not true. When the Soviets departed, we stepped in. Not in a major way, but our big noses were right there as usual.
Afghanistan is a tribal nation. It can't be ruled from Kabul anymore if it ever could. No government with American fingerprints on it will ever have legitimacy.
We are wasting time, money and lives in a futile attempt to give Afghanistan something that WE want. They didn't ask for it and won't have it forced on them.
Time to go home.
It is true. We got involved because we wanted them to defeat the Soviets, and when they did, we just took off and left them with no infrastructure. Maybe we should have never helped them in the first place. I don't know if that would have worked out better or worse. After all, that did go a long way towards ending the cold war. But we did get involved, and once the Soviets were defeated, we had the opportunity to do something good there, and we blew it. I'm not saying we should have implemented our own form of government there, but we should have left them something to work with. If we did, 9/11 may have never happened.
So, the taliban killing females who go to school is a lie?
Not for nothing, but your guy Barry said that the Afghanistan campaign was noble.
I agree that we should just get out...especially since Barry's bunch has no intention of winning.
The Taliban's ideology is none of my business. We aren't the arbiters of who should get an education in Afghanistan. We can't save everybody.
No intention of winning. We CAN'T win. Name the last foreign victor in Afghanistan.
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