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What good did it do any of the students in any of these shootings? We still have the dead. Once one of these lunatics decide this is what they are going to do all of the talk, hiding, and peaceful approach isn't going to save anybody (if they are in the assailants sights). There is no safer option at that time - it is fight or die.
The only reason you are 'free' today is because of the weapons that protect our Country, our President, our law makers and our institutions. Without weapons; somebody would give you a rude awakening.
Total BS. You live in a fantasy. What do mean by "rude awakening"? It isn't me that lives in a little bubble of nonsense, totally and utterly shut off from the real world. Tell me, have you ever lived outside the US? Travelled even?
I grew up in the UK - one of the most disarmed countries on earth - what was keeping me "free" there? I can tell you, that country's population is just as free as I am here. Of course, the chance of getting shot there is about a 100,000 times lower than here
Notice none of the Dems are proposing any new, concrete reforms that might make any kind of difference? Not one of them has proposed licensing all gun owners with a mental health evaluation before issuance. Not one of them have proposed a gun violence restraining order.
The only thing they are proposing is an expansion of the same old failed system that we currently have and that 9/10 killers sail through with no problem, and insane suggestions like repealing laws to make it easer to sue a third party gun company for the actions of a criminal....
You wanna know why I won't support any gun control laws? That's why. I'm not gonna support something just because it's a change if it doesn't actually work,
You are absolutely clueless. Not surprising really. I'll give you this one last comment (which you can consider education) and then wish you adios.
When Reagan was elected President in 1980, he discarded a law proposed by Carter that would have continued funding federal community mental health centers. This basically eliminated services for people struggling with mental illness.
He made similar decisions while he was the governor of California, releasing more than half of the state’s mental hospital patients and passing a law that abolished involuntary hospitalization of people struggling with mental illness.
I am not sure that there are many people who would have the audacity to praise Reagan when it comes to the treatment of mental health. You have officially proclaimed your "loony" status.
Mental health facilities were closing way before Reagan became president.
I grew up in the UK - one of the most disarmed countries on earth - what was keeping me "free" there? I can tell you, that country's population is just as free as I am here. Of course, the chance of getting shot there is about a 100,000 times lower than here
No it isn't.
Homicides by Gun in the US : 5.2 per 100,000
Homicides by Gun in the UK : 1.1 per 100,000
BUT, the US gun homicide rate is skewed up significantly by the black American Homicides by Gun rate of 19.5 per 100,000.
If only looking at Gun Homicides among white America, the rate is 2.5 per 100,000. This rate is quite low, considering that gun ownership rate in the US is almost 90 guns per 100 people compared to only 6.2 guns per 100 people in the UK.
Maybe its good that Brits are not permitted gun ownership in the UK?
And Brits are not just as free as Americans. Brits are prohibitted from owning guns.
Total BS. You live in a fantasy. What do mean by "rude awakening"? It isn't me that lives in a little bubble of nonsense, totally and utterly shut off from the real world. Tell me, have you ever lived outside the US? Travelled even?
I grew up in the UK - one of the most disarmed countries on earth - what was keeping me "free" there? I can tell you, that country's population is just as free as I am here. Of course, the chance of getting shot there is about a 100,000 times lower than here
Does the UK have a navy, army, air force? Doesn't it also have nukes? Whether you live here or over there; your 'safety' still depends on weapons. Of course you could argue that you don't need as many as you do have in either nation. But you will never know how many are too few until you loose your freedom. Somebody is always eyeing what somebody else has; that is human nature.
As far as travel: I used to travel 100,000 miles/year - but most of that was in the US. So what does that have to do with this conversation? Your more 'liberal' because you travel more?
BUT, the US gun homicide rate is skewed up significantly by the black American Homicides by Gun rate of 19.5 per 100,000.
If only looking at Gun Homicides among white America, the rate is 2.5 per 100,000. This rate is quite low, considering that gun ownership rate in the US is almost 90 guns per 100 people compared to only 6.2 guns per 100 people in the UK.
Maybe its good that Brits are not permitted gun ownership in the UK?
And Brits are not just as free as Americans. Brits are prohibitted from owning guns.
David Jacques, publisher of the Roseburg Beacon, told Bill O’Reilly on Monday that the people of Roseburg would not welcome Barack Obama if he came to town to politicize the funerals of the Umpqua College shooting victims.
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