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Old 10-02-2015, 02:16 PM
 
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There are over 11 million CCWs in America. If any one of them are accused of gun violence, they immediately have their CCW revoked. Do you know how many revocations we average?

"Revocations and suspensions occur when people are charged with a crime, but only about 5 percent or less of these cases result in conviction and thus people are eligible for having their licenses reinstated. While 120 were convicted of a crime in 2012, 905 people had their permits revoked, for a total rate of 0.15%. Over the last five years that revocation data is available (2009 to 2013), the rate is slightly lower, 0.13%"

People who legally carry are not the problem. When will people be able to distinguish between people who legally carry and those that choose to break the law by carrying without a license.
If every gun owner had to meet the same criteria as a CCW license then I think there would be no outcry over gun control or at least justifiable outcry IMO.
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Old 10-02-2015, 02:43 PM
 
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There are over 11 million CCWs in America. If any one of them are accused of gun violence, they immediately have their CCW revoked. Do you know how many revocations we average?

"Revocations and suspensions occur when people are charged with a crime, but only about 5 percent or less of these cases result in conviction and thus people are eligible for having their licenses reinstated. While 120 were convicted of a crime in 2012, 905 people had their permits revoked, for a total rate of 0.15%. Over the last five years that revocation data is available (2009 to 2013), the rate is slightly lower, 0.13%"

People who legally carry are not the problem. When will people be able to distinguish between people who legally carry and those that choose to break the law by carrying without a license.

I love it when someone can base comments on facts. Here is something newer 8/2014 and compares permit holders by age:

http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/...tes-by-age.pdf
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Old 10-02-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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All wishful thinking. There was an incident in NY where the cops fired multiple times missing the assailant and
shot bystanders. Then there have been several incidents where the so-called good guy with the CCW shot the victim by mistake.

This is the only country with a lunacy mentality that every citizen armed to the teeth will make us all safe.
Link please
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Old 10-02-2015, 03:04 PM
 
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I was just thinking about this the other day. Mass shooting aside, US Colleges do have an assault problem. Concealed Carry would easily fix that. Muggers/Rapists are going to think twice, is my potential victim packing heat? Not allowing this just turns the students into sitting ducks.
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Old 10-02-2015, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I was just thinking about this the other day. Mass shooting aside, US Colleges do have an assault problem. Concealed Carry would easily fix that. Muggers/Rapists are going to think twice, is my potential victim packing heat? Not allowing this just turns the students into sitting ducks.
No it would not, you would end up with untrained people shooting each other. We have the highest gun ratio in the world and the answer is more guns, that is not a solution that is adding to the problem.
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Old 10-02-2015, 07:37 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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No it would not, you would end up with untrained people shooting each other. We have the highest gun ratio in the world and the answer is more guns, that is not a solution that is adding to the problem.
Because this happens all the places people carry concealed already, oh wait, it doesn't.
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Old 10-02-2015, 07:39 PM
 
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Honestly, I think our president should, as they say, put his money where his mouth is. Dissolve the Secret Service. Get them and all their evil, scary guns out of the White House. Put up a No Guns sign at the door. That is what a LEADER that believed that guns are the problem would do. And also of course, make sure those evil guns aren't around his kids school. Get those nasty old armed SS agents out of there as well, and also replace them with a No Guns sign. The same as nearly every other child in America is protected by.
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:54 PM
 
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Thousands upon thousands? Some Republicans/NRA members seem to want millions and millions.

If only everyone at that college, that movie theatre, that restaurant, that sporting event, that concert, that office building, had a gun.


Why in the world do we have to be a country where everyone has to own a gun to survive. That is not freedom to me
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:57 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Why in the world do we have to be a country where everyone has to own a gun to survive. That is not freedom to me
The freedom is each person gets to choose for themselves if they want to own a gun or not.
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