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Old 10-03-2015, 12:43 PM
 
Location: California
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I suspect that Maybe 15-20% of the people in the US actually care what Obama thinks and even less cares what he says.

Anytime he speaks there is a massive change of channels.
The man has no credibility.
You are so wrong here Rakin. I've read where its not even 10%.

Love the post have good one Rakin
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Old 10-03-2015, 12:48 PM
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After reading all the posts on this thread I have to wonder why you are trying so dam hard to snuff the truth about these murders. What is your obvious reason for the killer to NOT have selected Christians? Careful of your answer because I will analyze every single letter like the dems did the chads in Florida during the bush fiasco. You are trying way to hard to stop truth and I'd like to know why.
I'm not the one trying hard to snuff out the truth. It's the "it was a hate crime" crowd that's ignoring statements that don't agree with what the wish to be true, relying on unverified tweets, and lying, twisting, and jumping to conclusions based on what other witnesses said.

Maybe there's some evidence that it was a hate crime but we don't have that evidence yet.
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Old 10-03-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I'm not the one trying hard to snuff out the truth. It's the "it was a hate crime" crowd that's ignoring statements that don't agree with what the wish to be true, relying on unverified tweets, and lying, twisting, and jumping to conclusions based on what other witnesses said.

Maybe there's some evidence that it was a hate crime but we don't have that evidence yet.
No hate involved in murdering 9 people...did Pravda tell you that? Sorry but anyone killing 9 people is involved in a hate crime, multiple hate crimes.
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Old 10-03-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Gone
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I suspect that Maybe 15-20% of the people in the US actually care what Obama thinks and even less cares what he says.

Anytime he speaks there is a massive change of channels.
The man has no credibility.
Well it seems you and a few others here care what he says or does not say because you are commenting on it
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Old 10-03-2015, 12:53 PM
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No hate involved in murdering 9 people...did Pravda tell you that? Sorry but anyone killing 9 people is involved in a hate crime, multiple hate crimes.
So now any mass murder is a hate crime? Are you unaware of the definition of "hate crime"?

I guess if you've got little to substantiate the claim that it was an anti-Christian hate crime, you just change the definition.
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Old 10-03-2015, 01:00 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Well it seems you and a few others here care what he says or does not say because you are commenting on it
Nope. I'm one of the millions that turns over to the ID channel (or others) when the man starts talking.
No one enjoys his lectures and very few respect him.

When the Pres gives up his security, I'll give up mine.
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Old 10-03-2015, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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So now any mass murder is a hate crime? Are you unaware of the definition of "hate crime"?

I guess if you've got little to substantiate the claim that it was an anti-Christian hate crime, you just change the definition.
Anyone that kills someone has committed a 'hate crime.' I don't need Pravda's definition to know what a hate crime involves and I know that killing 9 people in cold blood involves committing a hate crime.

When CNN, Fox, ABC News, BBC, interview survivors and all report that Christians were targeted and Pravda says that they found someone that said something different, I'll agree with the legit news sources that vetted their stories, unlike Pravda.
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Old 10-03-2015, 01:06 PM
 
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Nope. I'm one of the millions that turns over to the ID channel (or others) when the man starts talking.
No one enjoys his lectures and very few respect him.

When the Pres gives up his security, I'll give up mine.
But yet you have much to say on what you did not listen to or watch, hmmmm

I agree, those who's safety is assured day and night by armed men and women have to right to tell the rest of us we cannot at least protect ourselves.
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Old 10-03-2015, 01:15 PM
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Anyone that kills someone has committed a 'hate crime.' I don't need Pravda's definition to know what a hate crime involves and I know that killing 9 people in cold blood involves committing a hate crime.

When CNN, Fox, ABC News, BBC, interview survivors and all report that Christians were targeted and Pravda says that they found someone that said something different, I'll agree with the legit news sources that vetted their stories, unlike Pravda.
So basically you just make up your own definitions, dismiss any news source that doesn't tell you what you want to hear, and blindly latch on to sensationalist stories that tell you what you wish to be true.

By the way, you might want to look into who actually interviewed who and what those who were interviewed actually said. The only thing we have that actually paints it as an anti-Christian hate crime in black and white is an unsubstantiated tweet from someone who wasn't even there.
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Old 10-03-2015, 01:59 PM
 
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No.

This is what the side who doesn't want to do anything about this problem always says. It's nothing more than a stalling tactic intended to shut down the conversation and ensure that nothing ever gets done.
I see, so the proper decorum of generations ago related to people dying is all some ploy, not based on respect and decency.

Myself, I was always taught you focus on the living family members feelings, and respect the dead even if you did not care for them.
Furthermore, you never speak poorly of the dead, until at least they were given a proper burial.
These lessons might not be taught to the uncouth heathens of today, but many of us were brought up correctly.

So let Obama rail all he wants about things, but the president of this country should set the example for people, not be part of the ignorant masses.

BTW - If you still hold to your comment, then how can you defend him for not having focused on the murders motive of killing Christians
That is unless as you put it, Obama is " using a stalling tactic intended to shut down the conversation and ensure that nothing ever gets done".
Needless to say, you cannot have it both ways.

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