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They understood the element of evil better than today's liberal leaders. As long as evil exists (which will be as long as the earth exists) then an individual has a God given right to protect themselves with a firearm which is the only equalizer for evil.
Having an intact family with proper mother and father roles also helps to shield a growing mind from the influences of evil, but we can't go there in discussion anymore.
This is a laughable reason and no longer applicable. The government has . . drones, armies, bombs. Bringing a gun to a drone fight . . . come on.
Minute Men took down the British the worlds super power back in the day ...who says American militia's are no longer applicable? What makes you think that groups of former military, police and oath takers can't hold their own?
I see you have been dumb down to your rights by the socialist government educational system....
Difficult to say.......because Greek theatre and Roman entertainment is rather a lot like, in concept anyhow, what we have now.
Consider Greek theatre. Incest, bestiality, patricide, sacrificing one's child, adultery, etc, etc, etc.. All presented to the populace as entertainment. Now, two things. First of all, the story did usually involve punishment to some degree. Secondly, supposedly the purpose was to allow the populace to engage in such desires through such a means without it actually happening.......and they got a lesson out of it of what would happen if they actually did do it.
Consider Roman entertainment and a custom or two. The Colosseum (which pretty well says it in a nut shell) and the raping of virgins before execution.
The forefathers probably knew about such history, so it wasn't like that such a possibility was unknown. Now, they might have considered themselves so advanced, so learned, that such would never happen again......but I somehow doubt it, both from having just had a revolution from a rather advance country at the time............and the exploits of Ben Franklin.
Difficult to say.......because Greek theatre and Roman entertainment is rather a lot like, in concept anyhow, what we have now.
Consider Greek theatre. Incest, bestiality, patricide, sacrificing one's child, adultery, etc, etc, etc.. All presented to the populace as entertainment. Now, two things. First of all, the story did usually involve punishment to some degree. Secondly, supposedly the purpose was to allow the populace to engage in such desires through such a means without it actually happening.......and they got a lesson out of it of what would happen if they actually did do it.
Consider Roman entertainment and a custom or two. The Colosseum (which pretty well says it in a nut shell) and the raping of virgins before execution.
The forefathers probably knew about such history, so it wasn't like that such a possibility was unknown. Now, they might have considered themselves so advanced, so learned, that such would never happen again......but I somehow doubt it, both from having just had a revolution from a rather advance country at the time............and the exploits of Ben Franklin.
At least.
Spartacus knew all to well...Free Masons too...you can take my life but not my freedom.
When the subject of guns comes up, the arguments on both sides are always the same. One of the common ones is that our founders could never have imagined the modern weapons we have today and the lethality and carnage they they can inflict when in the wrong hands..... It so happens that I disagree with that, when you take in to account the intents of the 2A I think it's reasonable to conclude that they used the vague term "arms" for a reason..... But there are some things I DON'T think our founders ever envisioned.....
I don't think our founders could have ever envisioned a society as morally bankrupt as this one....
I don't think our founders could have ever envisioned a society that fetishizes violence and supposed "righteous" indignation to the extent this one does.... or a culture of casual, care free sexual promiscuity to the extent that this behaviour is pervieved as "normal" and perpetuates a sort of anxiety from those who are excluded from such deviance and feel marginalized from the fabric of that society.... or a culture that embraces and glorifies substance abuse in the politically correct form of recreational drug use.
I don't think our founders could have ever envisioned a society so dependant and coddled, and that fosters a victim mentality to the estent that when someone encounters the slightestr bit of adversity, their entire world is turned upside down....
I don't think our founders could have ever envisioned a society so regressed to the point where time honored and vitally important structures such as the family unit have been degradated and devalued,
I don't think our founders could have ever envisioned a society that has devalued life itself to the levels that this society has....
I don't think our founders could have ever envisioned a society where the concept of morals and decency are looked upon as outdated...
So do we have problems? Yeah.... maybe even a gun problem. This constant barrage of random violence has me re-thinking my hardline stance on gun rights, but if we think guns are the only problem here, well, we're just fooling ourselves....
Well I'll be dad-gummed if I don't agree with you!
There are bitter pills that need swallowing and like yourself I believe the staus-quo ain't gonna git-er-dun.
"Grabbing" all the guns, even if for one second some nut thought that was a feasible idea, would not achieve the desired effect.
Crafting laws as has been suggested, also in my mind would be a panacea exercise in creating additional bureaucracy to no practical realization of benefit or change.
The place to start is announcing ramped up and stringent enforcement of already existing laws with penalties increased to a degree unseen before.
Removing rights from the mentally ill should present no greater obstacle then it does at the present time for removing driver's licenses from diagnosed Alzheimer's patients. If it is demonstrated you do not have the cognitive reasoning skills to own a firearm so as to condition it's rational use you lose the priviledge.
No one would want an Air Force member to occupy a nuclear weapon control station while having a mental illness that impairs his judgement. Same, same.
But before any restrictions are enforced on that front a commitment to vastly improve the system of mental health care MUST be implemented to both effectively diagnose while guaranteeing basic rights and then force treatment protocols that remove choice from the equation you would not allow a suicide were you capable of preventing it but for some reason these folks can wander off uncared for.
Their rights versus yours to function as a member of society, take your pick.
If I had to live in cities during that time I would hold Jeffersons views too. The modern city is not comparable to old cities in terms of QOL.
Of course, and the founding fathers were neither seers nor paragons of virtue. For all of his blabbidy-blab in public documents about freedom and equality, he believed in the inferiority of blacks and was an opponent of freeing slaves, and voting in his early republic was happily confined to a very limited number of white men whose property ownership or wealth qualified them to cast a vote. "Mechanics," the working guy without a bank account was an object of contempt...and George Washington ranted in his writings against their temerity.
These men are not the measure of all things for all times.
Minute Men took down the British the worlds super power back in the day ...who says American militia's are no longer applicable? What makes you think that groups of former military, police and oath takers can't hold their own?
I see you have been dumb down to your rights by the socialist government educational system....
Key words ' back in the day'. Again, you are bringing guns to a drone fight. You lose. Game over.
They understood the element of evil better than today's liberal leaders. As long as evil exists (which will be as long as the earth exists) then an individual has a God given right to protect themselves with a firearm which is the only equalizer for evil.
Having an intact family with proper mother and father roles also helps to shield a growing mind from the influences of evil, but we can't go there in discussion anymore.
Of course not. But God does give some people common sense.
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