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45 killed this year by "mass shooters". In the USA this is a whopping 0.000014%. i.e. It's a bogyman created to push gun control on the people by incompetent and pandering politicians.
Yes... the people in here who are against gun ownership are the very people the politicians target to drum up votes using scare tactics: war on women, on gays, on blacks and Hispanics, guns kill...yadda yadda
It's called pandering. These bureaucrats and politicians want to take away every right to affect complete control, and the people they scare into believing their lies are more than willing to hand over their (and our) rights in exchange for perceived safety.
It's called "Affect Control Theory" - Besides a denotative meaning, every concept has an affective meaning, or connotation, that varies along three dimensions: evaluation – goodness versus badness, potency – powerfulness versus powerlessness, and activity – liveliness versus torpidity
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and yet you still refuse to accept that rampage killing happen nearly as often in other countries, but you say that we cant compare third world countries to the US, but the asian countries are not third world, and yet they have as many rampage killing as this country does. you fail.
More! Just last year two women attacked every living body they could find in a train station in China (China has no tolerance for gun ownership... NONE! Generally, private citizens are not allowed to possess guns and penalties for arms trafficking include death.) With knives they killed 29 and injured another 130.
This knife attack would be worse than ANY citizen gun massacre in US history. Did anyone here post about it... I couldn't find it.
Most will agree even a crazy person does not put their hand in a fire.
Murders choose the weakest opponents .
The fewer weak, the fewer willing to commit murder.
Require gun training as a "school requirement" both for safety and recognition and operation. =Safety issues dealt with .
Require legal understanding for breaking the law and harming others and have strait consequences for such regardless of age, mentality or status.
Abolish plea bargaining .
Death penalty reinstated. by firing squad , civilians are paid participants, like jurors .
If a responsibility must be shared by the people ( not by a concealed few) also have an appreciation for the severity of the crime. More parents would be concerned about their children's behavior.
Those with a bent toward criminal behavior have a better idea for the real consequences of that mentality.
People Choose to feed a mentality . if you choose not to view the consequences the fantasy will back fire.
the best deterrent for crime, is to demonstrate intolerance for it.
Worst School Massacre in US history: Bath, Michigan School Massacre. 1927. Murder accomplished with explosives. 44 victims (equal to the Columbine and Virginia Tech massacres combined).
6 killed over Xbox dispute in Deltona, Florida, US: 8/6/2004. 6 killed. 4 men (all old enough to legally purchase firearms) bludgeon 6 people to death with baseball bats over purloined Xbox.
Daegu subway fire, Daegu, South Korea: 2/18/2003. 198 killed, 147 injured. A 56 year old unemployed taxi driver, dissatisfied with his medical treatment, sets fire to a crowded train.
the issue isnt guns....its the mentally ill , and our lack of documenting and instutionalizing them
Why do folks that live in rural areas where crime is rare insist on using guns for protection.
Rare does not equal non-existent. When something bad does happen, the police response time is measured with a sun dial.
My mother-in-law lives in a town of 400 people with no police force. The county seat is a 30 minute drive away and at night there are less than 10 sheriff's deputies patrolling the 950 square miles of the county. When the woman across the street from her was murdered, it took almost an hour for law enforcement to arrive.
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Liberal folks that live in high crime big cities do not have guns.
Figure that one out.
There are many reasons for this:
1. Most large cities have extremely strict gun laws. Read up on D.C's or Chicago's gun laws.
2. They are conditioned to believe the police will be there to help them.
3. Even if the laws of the city are lax, public housing can have their own rules that are more strict than the local laws.
More! Just last year two women attacked every living body they could find in a train station in China (China has no tolerance for gun ownership... NONE! Generally, private citizens are not allowed to possess guns and penalties for arms trafficking include death.) With knives they killed 29 and injured another 130.
This knife attack would be worse than ANY citizen gun massacre in US history. Did anyone here post about it... I couldn't find it.
i have posted this a few times, and the gun grabbers either ignore it, or dismiss it;
for the most part, there are people who genuinely dislike firearms, but they recognize the fact that there are those to do like them.
but then there are those like you who are afraid of guns, and scared to even accept responsibility for your own protection, to the point where you dont want anyone else to accept that responsibility either. you think that calling 911 when bad things start to happen is the only move to make, that and run away scared.
and there are too many people like that in this country these days, you depend on the government for just about everything these days, including your protection. but realize that when seconds count the cops are only minutes away.
if someone points a gun at you, you have two options, you can die, or you can kill the SOB pointing the the gun at you. its your choice.
The number of new cases of leukemia was 13.3 per 100,000 men and women per year. Does that mean we do not treat this form of cancer?
This is rate of, 0.013%, a very small number. And despite that number being so small even it's 1000 times more likely to happen than being killed by mass shooting.
Resources are not unlimited. If you really want to do something about people being killed by guns, go address the urban violence in places like Chicago. They have more homicides in some months than all the dead from mass shootings over a several year period.
If mathematics is the determining point then it's clear that attempting to address mass shootings with new laws, is a big waste of time.
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I hope you always stay mentally healthy.
