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Old 10-04-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: United States
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So everyone that drives a car is part of a "car culture"?
Everyone that uses a phone is part of a "phone culture"?
Everyone that brushes their teeth a "tooth brush culture"?
Yep, drunk drivers kill as many, or more people, than are murdered by firearms.

Many more people are killed, or injured when using their phone while driving, than are killed, or injured by firearms.

We clearly need to eliminate the car, drinking, and phone culture, because they kill, or injure many more people than firearms. So, before we ban firearms, we should first ban cars, drinking, and phones, none of which are protected under the Constitution.
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Old 10-04-2015, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Every time there is a shooting in the US (except Chicago), there is aa call for "new" gun laws.

Can anyone tell me what new gun law would have prevented the Oregon shooting, or any other shooting?
Nah, no new laws regulating guns. And toss out the existing gun laws (if there are any) 'cuz they don't seem to be doing squat. What the hell, a few mass shootings to thin out the herd is probably a good thing, right? Schools, churches, movie theaters .... people should just stay the hell home. What do people think - that they're gonna be safe in these places??

I saw a great quote by John Oliver (What is it that allows comedians to understand so well the gun culture in this country? Is it that they are just a little crazy?) that goes like this:

"One failed attempt at a shoe bomb and we all take off our shoes at the airport - Thirty-one school shootings since Columbine and no change in our regulation of guns."
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Old 10-04-2015, 01:25 PM
 
Location: United States
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Nah, no new laws regulating guns. And toss out the existing gun laws (if there are any) 'cuz they don't seem to be doing squat. What the hell, a few mass shootings to thin out the herd is probably a good thing, right? Schools, churches, movie theaters .... people should just stay the hell home. What do people think - that they're gonna be safe in these places??

I saw a great quote by John Oliver (What is it that allows comedians to understand so well the gun culture in this country? Is it that they are just a little crazy?) that goes like this:

"One failed attempt at a shoe bomb and we all take off our shoes at the airport - Thirty-one school shootings since Columbine and no change in our regulation of guns."
The truth is that we could eliminate all firearm regulations, and we would only see a minimal increase in gun violence. And the increase would be in the number of criminals killing each other.

Your little example is a complete fail. Do you know that airport security tests show that they failed to detect contraband something like 80-90% of the time? Airport security is an illusion, and the thirty-one school shootings myth has been debunked numerous times. Like I said, complete fail.
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Old 10-04-2015, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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Complete confiscation of every firearm in the country along with controlling access to machining equipment to licensed manufacturing companies.
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Old 10-04-2015, 01:59 PM
 
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Every time there is a shooting in the US (except Chicago), there is aa call for "new" gun laws.

Can anyone tell me what new gun law would have prevented the Oregon shooting, or any other shooting?
Nothing would work. If stricter laws are in place, only the bad guys would have them. Look at Chicago.
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Old 10-04-2015, 02:02 PM
 
Location: United States
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Complete confiscation of every firearm in the country along with controlling access to machining equipment to licensed manufacturing companies.
This is the only suggestion that would reduce mass shootings. It of course would be unconstitutional to confiscate firearms, and impossible to control manufacturing.
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Old 10-04-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: The Midwest
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None, because criminals don't obey laws. They couldn't care less.
So because criminals don't obey laws, we shouldn't have laws? Is that what you are saying?
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Old 10-04-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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This is the only suggestion that would reduce mass shootings. It of course would be unconstitutional to confiscate firearms, and impossible to control manufacturing.
This is the only way to stop shootings I can come up with. I agree it would be unconstitutional and hard to control manufacturing. The question was asked so I answered even though I would fight any effort to do it.
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Old 10-04-2015, 02:15 PM
 
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That only "makes sense" to a derranged liberal. Every woman who gets an abortion kills someone, a tiny fraction of a percent of legal gun owners kills anyone. To a liberaL apples and oranges are identical if it allows them to pass another law.
Abortions do not kill living, breathing, functioning people. Men with guns are almost exclusively responsible for mass shootings in the US and have caused the deaths of 500+ actual, living humans since 1982 (US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation | Mother Jones) To not take a closer look at men - particularly young men - who buy multiple guns/rifles/assault weapons only makes sense to a deranged RWNJ.
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Old 10-04-2015, 02:54 PM
 
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So because criminals don't obey laws, we shouldn't have laws? Is that what you are saying?
no, what he is saying is that new laws WONT decrease rampage killings.
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