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Old 10-04-2015, 01:43 PM
 
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Playing weak? Please explain what it will accomplish politically and tactically? Obama has been "playing weak" for 7 years.
To the average citizen listening to mainstream media Obama seems anti-war, not willing to make a stand, giving concessions to our adversaries ... but to a person who looks at the big picture and see's the actual accomplishments Obama has made in foreign policy we see the fall of Muammar Gaddafi and the Libia government ... we see the fall of Hosni Mubarak ... we see many Middle East and North African governments fall to regime change operations orchestrated by the Obama administration ... we see the fall of Verkhovna Rada the Ukraine government to regime change ... we see devastating economic sanctions on various adversaries and manipulation of oil prices that hurt the economies of countries like Russia.

Obama is probably the most successful leader our country has ever had if what we wanted was a brutal and ruthless leader who is hell bent on destroying nations using covert means.
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Old 10-04-2015, 01:49 PM
 
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How silly.

A real war between these two will go nuclear and both sides have enough of these weapons to completely devastate the planet let alone destroy each other. One MRV'd ICBM can level a dozen cities, there is absolutely no defense against it, and both sides have hundreds of them ready to go.

A single nuclear tipped torpedo can obliterate and entire carrier group. A nuclear shell can clear a battlefield of all tanks, troops and aircraft. There is no defense. And if I had to bet money, I'd put my money on Putin being very willing to use these kinds of weapons if need be.

I guess your old school. Nuclear weapons are so 1980's ... today we have directed energy, electromagnetic weaponry, space based weaponry ... we could take out Moscow and they would not even know if it was war or a natural disaster.
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Old 10-04-2015, 01:53 PM
 
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I guess your old school. Nuclear weapons are so 1980's ... today we have directed energy, electromagnetic weaponry, space based weaponry ... we could take out Moscow and they would not even know if it was war or a natural disaster.
Well, that post just rendered all your others redundant. You really need to step away from your X-Box for at least ten minutes or so every 24 hours.
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Old 10-04-2015, 01:57 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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You are utterly and completely wrong, and you are naive. What destroyed stability was Obama's policies, his enabling of and support for the Muslim Brotherhood, which he allowed to take over Egypt, our early withdrawal of troops, leaving no forces behind, and now his "Iran deal," which is especially foolish.

Hear what John Bolton has to say on U.S. foreign policy under Obama, and he discusses the current crisis in the Middle East, particularly Russia's involvement (26:12):

Ambassador John Bolton, Recorded on 10/3/15 YAFoundation on USTREAM. Politics
So the Middle East was stable right before Obama took office.....

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So our government and military kept claiming that ISIS was a fierce military force and it would take decades to defeat them? Who actually believed those lies? The US has the most powerful military in the world and took out the elite Iraq military in just a few short days ... and that was over a decade ago ... long before some of our new high technology weaponry.

So Russia comes to the aid of it's Syrian ally and devastates the ISIS forces in just 72 hours. What does this tell you? Does it prove that our government and media were lying yet again? What about the fear mongering our government and media were unleashing on the American people that ISIS was coming to America to unleash terror on our streets? More lies to instill fear into the people so they accept more domestic surveillance and the trampling on our civil rights? People need to learn from this event and stop being sheeple. It should be pretty obvious now that the reason why the US has not taken out ISIS is because the US created ISIS and has been training, arming and funding ISIS with our hard earned tax dollars. We are paying for our own demise.

Russia Claims ISIS Now On The Ropes As Fighters Desert After 60 Airstrikes In 72 Hours
One question that’s been asked repeatedly over the past thirteen months is why Washington has been unable to achieve the Pentagon’s stated goal of “degrading and defeating” ISIS despite the fact that the “battle” pits the most advanced air force on the planet against what amounts to a ragtag band of militants running around the desert in basketball shoes.

Billions From U.S. Fail to Sustain Foreign Forces
WASHINGTON — With alarming frequency in recent years, thousands of American-trained security forces in the Middle East, North Africa and South Asia have collapsed, stalled or defected, calling into question the effectiveness of the tens of billions of dollars spent by the United States on foreign military training programs, as well as a central tenet of the Obama administration’s approach to combating insurgencies.
Yawn.... I bet the Chinese could take care of Isis.... Or the Saudis.....or Israel..... Here in America, public perception is very important as we aren't just going to bomb and ask questions later. Perhaps you're new to this country...

We could easily wipe out Isis if we did care about civilians.
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Old 10-04-2015, 01:58 PM
 
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Well, that post just rendered all your others redundant. You really need to step away from your X-Box for at least ten minutes or so every 24 hours.
Try educating yourself on our latest technologies of war.

Do you remember Defense Secretary William Cohen? Or were you even out of diapers in 1997?

"Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations...It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensifour [counter terrorism] efforts." - Defense Secretary William Cohen, 1997
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Old 10-04-2015, 02:01 PM
 
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So the Middle East was stable right before Obama took office.....



Yawn.... I bet the Chinese could take care of Isis.... Or the Saudis.....or Israel..... Here in America, public perception is very important as we aren't just going to bomb and ask questions later. Perhaps you're new to this country...

We could easily wipe out Isis if we did care about civilians.
LOL ... the uninformed strike again.

Have you ever wondered why ISIS is using US military weaponry and they keep getting resupplied with ammo, rockets and bombs?
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Old 10-04-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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I guess your old school. Nuclear weapons are so 1980's ... today we have directed energy, electromagnetic weaponry, space based weaponry ... we could take out Moscow and they would not even know if it was war or a natural disaster.
I guess you lack any kind of real education as none of this exists. You have been watching too many fantasy videos.
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Old 10-04-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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Looks like more like, if they are opposed to Assad, they must be ISIS
Surgical airstrikes by Russian fighter jets have knocked out a number of Islamic State installations in Syria, including the battle headquarters of a jihadist group near Raqqa, according to the Russian Defense Ministry.

“Over the past 24 hours, Sukhoi Su-34 and Su-24M fighter jets have performed 20 sorties and hit nine Islamic State installations,” Igor Konashenkov, Russia’s Defense Ministry spokesman, reported.

Konashenkov added that yesterday evening Russian aircraft went on six sorties, inflicting strikes on three terrorist installations.
Interesting headline... not so much in the actual story:


“A bunker-busting BETAB-500 air bomb dropped from a Sukhoi Su-34 bomber near Raqqa has eliminated the command post of one of the terror groups, together with an underground storage facility for explosives and munitions,” the spokesman said.

Commenting on the video filmed by a Russian UAV monitoring the assault near Raqqa, Konashenkov noted, “a powerful explosion inside the bunker indicates it was also used for storing a large quantity of munitions.

“As you can see, a direct hit on the installation resulted in the detonation of explosives and multiple fires. It was completely demolished,” the spokesman said.
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Old 10-04-2015, 02:09 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Putin is Russia's Dubya

An ideology cannot be defeated militarily as Dubya demonstrated at the expense of this nation. This campaign by Putin is being done to gain a favorable response from the UN, so that the US is pressured into supporting the easing of sanctions. Sanctions have significantly weakened Russia, putting Putin at risk of being negatively viewed by his own people. The country doesn't have the economic strength for a long military campaign, so claims of "victory" must come swiftly. Because Russia's attack on ISIS is confined to military strikes, its effectiveness is negligible...as President Obama has stated.

Putin is a pretender, who is not truthful to his own people about Russia's limitations. He's a fool and a blowhard. Russia is a great country. Its people have great character and strength, great dignity. Putin however, is Russia's Dubya. The country deserves better than such a farcical leader.
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Old 10-04-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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Lol @ Americans believing Russian claims about anything.
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