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The massacres in question were not perpetrated by "gangbangers" …
But, yes …
Obviously it is far, far, far too easy for people to get essentially unrestricted access to guns and ammo … whether it is "gangbangers" or crazy guys who show up in a theater or at a mall or a school ...
So, you're admitting you want to restrict access. In spite of your saying you don't.
And the "Anti-Gun Nut" culture isn't a positive aspect.
The number of justifiable self-defense shootings with deadly outcome (to a criminal) is 10x more than the number of victims of mass shootings. Per FBI's own homicide data.
And both numbers are tiny compared to the gangland murder rate.
We can strike out any kind of gun control restrictions at point of purchase as we traditionally think of "gun control." You people don't want that. Fine.
Also strike out any kind of mental-health background checks or psychological testing or flagging that attempts to break the link between mentally ill people and guns. Great.
So what's left? Very little, you people won't give in anything. Arming non-uniformed people in a classroom or other crowded situation could turn a bad situation worse when bullets pass though people or ricochet.
A CHL is for personal defense. It doesn't make you a security guard for a school or responsible for other people. A responsible concealed carrier would look to flee an active shooter situation at all costs and only use his/her weapon if cornered by the shooter with no other choice. Any other actions risk collateral damage and negligence lawsuits for that CHL holder (and revocation of the CHL).
Since we've eliminated most sensible responses, the only other way to reduce or prevent these active shooter scenarios is to harden the targets. We could put metal detectors at the entrances of theaters, school and college buildings. We could also hire more uniformed security at those places. Expensive options, but that's all we're left with.
In the longer term, we could implement better mental health care. We seem to approach mental illness in the U.S. today the way we approached AIDS in the 1980s. Meaning, we act like it's not a problem and blame everything and everyone else. I have to wonder if part of the reason we have this problem in the U.S. and developed countries have less of it is because they have national health care systems that identify and treat more of the people with mental health issues more effectively.
Last edited by redguard57; 10-08-2015 at 03:17 PM..
You're trying to distance yourselves from other gun owners in this country. Nice try, but it's a fail. A gun is a gun, whether or not it's owned by someone you approve of.
And Fascist Gun Banners are doing what... exactly... to fix the cultural problem that drives the vast majority of gun violence? You know, gang/thug culture... Drug culture... Oh wait... those are things you guys SUPPORT.
Nevermind.
All they do is stir up the angry mob - like they did in Ferguson, or in the clear self-defense case of Zimmerman. Because when these people are constantly angry and agitated, maybe they'd care enough to show up at the voting booth. And if there's enough riots, maybe the left wing radicals can scare the country enough to push through some of their agenda.
The Oregon guy killed 10 people and he's all over the news.
The gang bangers kill thousands and the media is hush.
So by banning and confiscating all guns, that will make all of these issues go away right? Because our 40+ year "war on drugs" has worked out so well, right? It's pretty much impossible for people to get drugs anymore.
Keep in mind that they can only ban and confiscate legally owned guns from people who actually obey the law.
There's about 100-150 million illegal, untraceable guns in this country. Nobody is even proposing confiscating them.
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