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Old 10-08-2015, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Because they're the ones touting it.

But I digress...why don't they lead the way?
You forget. The left are only generous with other people's money.
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Old 10-08-2015, 05:02 AM
 
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Wow! You are absolutely amazing. You have taken a chronic national challenge and solved it in a quick, snarky sound bite. Imagine if the whole of society, including the wealthy, would devote themselves to the issue of poverty. We could radically change our country. Of course, it doesn't make for a cute dig at the poor or political liberal.

Here is another thought. What if conservatives in America held big businesses to the actual tax code and used that revenue to provide for the poor, pay national debt, or even to reinvest in the infasrtructure they currently exploit? Why not try to garner revenues from them before a single working mom? I gaurantee the big business owes much more than the mom.
Thank you....but I already knew that!
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Old 10-08-2015, 05:05 AM
 
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You forget. The left are only generous with other people's money.
Apparently.

My point was to get the ball rolling....not by any government mandate, but simply by placing their beliefs into action.

Come on lefties! We know you can prove the businesses wrong about wages!
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Old 10-08-2015, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Wow! You are absolutely amazing. You have taken a chronic national challenge and solved it in a quick, snarky sound bite. Imagine if the whole of society, including the wealthy, would devote themselves to the issue of poverty. We could radically change our country. Of course, it doesn't make for a cute dig at the poor or political liberal.

Here is another thought. What if conservatives in America held big businesses to the actual tax code and used that revenue to provide for the poor, pay national debt, or even to reinvest in the infasrtructure they currently exploit? Why not try to garner revenues from them before a single working mom? I gaurantee the big business owes much more than the mom.


They did that during the Johnson administration and it did radically change our country.

It created record numbers of fatherless black families and the single moms you mention later in your post.

The dots are there to be connected.


FTR, it isn`t conservatives insisting marginal US corporate tax rates be the highest among developed nations, and this all but insuring the profits of international corporations be realized and taxed in safe havens like the Cayman Islands and Ireland.

Corporate tax evasion 'crackdown' more bark than bite - Business: Tax Season - CBC News
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Old 10-08-2015, 05:07 AM
 
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BTW....you lefties didn't think before you posted. Color me surprised!
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Old 10-08-2015, 05:54 AM
 
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Because they're the ones touting it.

But I digress...why don't they lead the way?
Bernie Sanders is trying to lead the way, but most Americans are too primitive and barbaric to adopt an European style government. All we have is low middle class republicans defending the interest of the big corporations.
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Living near our Nation's Capitol since 2010
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Bernie Sanders is trying to lead the way, but most Americans are too primitive and barbaric to adopt an European style government. All we have is low middle class republicans defending the interest of the big corporations.
This kills me. Bernie Sanders is advocating implementing programs that are simply not affordable. FREE college for everyone? Totally government funded FREE health care, etc? These are simply not possible unless we make workers (you know, those of us who actually have a job and pay taxes) give up most of their earnings to "help" the "poor".

Why is it that the Left cannot recognize that these pie-in-the-sky ideas are simply not affordable...unless, of course, the government starts taking personal assets from those with anything to steal. No thanks.

About 46.4 percent of U.S. households didn't pay federal income taxes in 2011.


(Tax Policy Center)
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:21 AM
 
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Ask yourself this....why do you think only those on the left should resolve problems affecting us all?
Some leftist policies have actually reduced poverty (medicare, medicaid and social security), while others have not (welfare and subsidized housing).

The problem with poverty is that one cannot "defeat it" simply by throwing money at it. It takes a cultural shift and change of attitude, as well as available avenues for ascension from poverty. Two parent families, emphasis on education, strong work ethic, abstinance from drugs, abstinance from teen pregnancy, and actual jobs available to those who work hard, obtain the appropriate education, and identify sectors of need in the economy. That is a pretty tall order.

Good jobs and strong families are the best routes out of poverty. We need LOWER corporate taxes to provide incentives for business in the US and even LOWER taxes for businesses that locate near lower income areas. Business is not going to magically appear in a lower income area in which they do not have appropriately educated and motivated employees. That is why Wells Fargo, Microsoft, and Google are building scads of new facilities and hiring people where I live, but not in Flint, MI.

One must consider as well the businesses that chose to locate in Baltimore and St. Louis that were burned down and vandalized by throngs of rioters. Is that a good environment in which one would like to start a new business?

Jobs and business are the fertilizer and water for people to grow out of poverty. The "plant" must have strong family roots and an emphasis on education. "The Great Society" showed us that simply throwing money at a problem does not make it better.
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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Ask yourself this....why do you think only those on the left should resolve problems affecting us all?
Because it a problem caused by policies of the left. The left also thinks it is the obligation of the right to "fix" Obamacare after ignoring all their input when it was being crafted.
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:31 AM
 
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The same reason why you don't pay for the part of the road that's in front of your house, or the highway that takes you to work. If a million people gave $1 we have a million dollars, as opposed to asking a single person to give a million dollars, easy concept. Collectivism its how we got out the caves.
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