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there again you are WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!! please read this and understand it before you try to tell us what kind of "expert" you are on the second amendment;
once oyu understand what is written here, you will understand what the founders intended when they wrote the second amendment. remember that we had just finished war of independence just eleven years earlier and the founders did NOT want a populace of subjects, but rather citizens. they did NOT want the government to have oversight of the people when it came to firearms.
Once again, you are confusing just who the "people " mentioned in the2nd actually are.
No where does it state John q. Public, but rather, the "Militia" is being addressed.
The people who formed, and will form in the future, a militia, are the ones mentioned, and protected by the 2nd amendment.
You obviously need to read that amendment until you get it's true meaning.
You, and all the others are just looking for a way to vilify your need o have a gun.
The O.P. states an important principle. . .
Those who have no RIGHTS and must be OBEDIENT of the government should have no guns.
However, under the republican form of government, Americans are sovereigns, not subjects.
That means that the government is not the master, but the SERVANT of Americans. When the SERVANT tells the MASTER to disarm, that's going to get him a trip to the woodshed.
“... at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people, and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are SOVEREIGNS WITHOUT SUBJECTS, and have none to govern but themselves.
“... In Europe, the sovereignty is generally ascribed to the Prince; here, it rests with the people; there, the sovereign actually administers the government; here, never in a single instance; our Governors are the agents of the people, and, at most, stand in the same relation to their sovereign in which regents in Europe stand to their sovereigns."
- - - Justice John Jay in Chisholm v. Georgia (2 U.S. 419 (1793))
Justice John Jay says government is an agent for the sovereign people, not sovereign over them. They govern themselves.
"What I do say is that no man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent. I say this is the leading principle, the sheet-anchor of American republicanism. Our Declaration of Independence says: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
- - - Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Peoria, Illinois (1854)
Absent consent, all government is authorized to do is SECURE rights - endowed (sacred) rights to life, liberty, absolute ownership, and so on and so forth.
Perhaps you didn't read my post.
I said nothing about walking one's dog in a park.
I stated if one were afraid of an intruder into one's house, they should get a German Shepherd(not a Doberman pincher) to ward off an intruder.
Trust me, a Shepherd instinctively senses danger, and reacts in an extremely combative position, especially to intrusion.
Any one would be a fool to try and go up against a Shepherd.
Why do you think they are the number one choice of police departments through out the country?
There is a reason for that.
Once again, you are confusing just who the "people " mentioned in the2nd actually are.
No where does it state John q. Public, but rather, the "Militia" is being addressed.
The people who formed, and will form in the future, a militia, are the ones mentioned, and protected by the 2nd amendment.
You obviously need to read that amendment until you get it's true meaning.
You, and all the others are just looking for a way to vilify your need o have a gun.
get a dog for protection? is that you best response? get real, dogs can be put down quickly and easily, and then what do you have? nothing. and if you think criminals are going to care about what the human society would say, trust me they wont care one whit.
your absolute anti gun stance is rubbish at this point, you want bigger government control over the populace at large, but sorry, i wont drive a little grey sedan, and live in a little grey apartment, and east what ever boring foods the government has approved, just because you are scared of the evil gun.
you might run away screaming like a little girl, and crapping your panties, at the sight of a gun, or a big dog, but i wont. dont try to lay your fears on others.
Obviously you have never witnessed a well trained Shepherd in combative mode.
I doubt there is one person in the entire world that would confront a trained Shepherd.
I don't think you've thought this through.
Are you willing to accept the bloodbath that would
result in an attempt at confiscation to save a few lives?
If you wanna save lives, bring back the 55MPH speed limit.
Anyone for that?
If you could round em all up, a black market would spring
up almost immediately; out of work gunsmiths would begin
production. Do you think they're hard to make?
We have better tools now than when they made a
pretty fine pistol in 1911.
We do such a great job keeping drugs out of the country,
I'm sure no weapons could get in. You believe that?
Anyway, the Second Amendment will never be repealed.
You are absolutely wrong.
No black market in guns would spring up, because the penalty from being caught with a gun would be 10 years, or life in prison with out parole.
There goes the incentive for a black market.
Don't kid yourself there is no such thing as "never".
Many are already giving this amendment a lot of consideration.
You are absolutely wrong. No black market in guns would spring up, because the penalty from being caught with a gun would be 10 years, or life in prison with out parole.
There goes the incentive for a black market.
Don't kid yourself there is no such thing as "never".
Many are already giving this amendment a lot of consideration.
Bob.
Right...and the prospect of the death penalty prevents murder.
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