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Show us a "study of statistics with flawed reporting" and explain why it is flawed.
More ignorance about infectious disease and immunology. At any given time the body is responding to multiple bacteria and viruses, all in larger numbers than what is found in a vaccine and all capable of multiplying, resulting in a much larger antigen load for the immune system to deal with. One simple cold will produce more antigens than all of the vaccines anyone will ever receive.
Already explained why the studies were flawed. See previous posts.
One simple cold with simple cold antigens is not the same as 3 separate diseases a person would NEVER have at the same time.
It certainly is possible for a child, or anyone, to get all three of these diseases at once. And heck, kids get colds and then an ear infection as a secondary frequently.
Already explained why the studies were flawed. See previous posts.
One simple cold with simple cold antigens is not the same as 3 separate diseases a person would NEVER have at the same time.
You keep saying "the studies were flawed" but provide no valid scientific explanation why. Of course, you were also saying that studies have not been done. You really can't have it both ways. Choose a study that you feel is flawed and explain why.
The point is that the cold virus will provide more of a challenge to the immune system than the vaccine, because there will be many more cold viruses (replicating viruses) than the dead or weakened organisms in the vaccine.
There is nothing fundamentally different between the antigens from viruses that cause colds and flu virus antigens. However, cold viruses are not "simple" antigen wise. That's why we do not have vaccines for them.
People are coinfected with multiple organisms at one time. It's possible to simultaneously carry the chickenpox virus and be infected with HPV and be infected with the herpes virus that causes cold sores on the mouth and the herpes virus that causes genital ulcers and then catch the flu. Then there is the fact that the immune system protects us from all the bacteria that are normally on us and inside us - every day, every minute of our lives. What those bacteria do to us when we die and the immune system ceases functioning is, well, not pretty.
In this study, about a quarter of the children who were laboratory tested were found to be simultaneously infected with both rubella and measles:
"The samples were inoculated on the Vero h/SLAM cell line and incubated. On 5 th day, full cytopathic effect (CPE) was observed. Serological results showed that out of 21 serum samples 9 (39.1%) were positive for measles IgM antibodies, whereas 7 (30.4%) were positive for rubella IgM antibodies. Interestingly, 5 (23.80%) serum samples showed dual infection with measles and rubella."
You can have flu and be infected with other respiratory viruses at the same time:
So what?????
It's the truth...why shoot the messenger????
There's nothing on that poster that isn't the truth....what part of this shocking truth upsets you so much?
So what?????
It's the truth...why shoot the messenger????
There's nothing on that poster that isn't the truth....what part of this shocking truth upsets you so much?
Yes, there is. They left off the OPV boosters at 18 mo and 5 years in 1980. You know, the stuff we don't given any more that can cause polio in the recipient and contacts. More antigens in 1980 than now.
So what?????
It's the truth...why shoot the messenger????
There's nothing on that poster that isn't the truth....what part of this shocking truth upsets you so much?
Yes, there is. They left off the OPV boosters at 18 mo and 5 years in 1980. You know, the stuff we don't given any more that can cause polio in the recipient and contacts. More antigens in 1980 than now.
My daughters were born in 1979 and 1984. Yes, they got all of those vaccinations EXCEPT that Influenza Type B vax. Their Pediatrician told me every shot they were given. Flu shot not among them. I certainly would have refused that due to the fact that I worked at a Big Pharm during the 1976 Swine Flu Fiasco.
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