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Old 12-31-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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No not yet....... If they see they can boss kids around,they will be trying to attack everyone s00n enough!

 
Old 12-31-2015, 02:17 PM
 
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No not yet....... If they see they can boss kids around,they will be trying to attack everyone s00n enough!
Precisely. Legislation already in the works for Veterans to be up to date on vaccinations, and TRACKED. I am sure the Medicare Beneficiaries will be next. Any Adult receiving Government Benefits will be the first to be forced, or their benefits cut off. No school for children, no benefits for adults.

The noose is widening with the "gains" they have achieved with legislation for children. "Consequences" as one nameless poster says all the time.
 
Old 12-31-2015, 02:20 PM
 
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Precisely. Legislation already in the works for Veterans to be up to date on vaccinations, and TRACKED. I am sure the Medicare Beneficiaries will be next. Any Adult receiving Government Benefits will be the first to be forced, or their benefits cut off. No school for children, no benefits for adults.

The noose is widening with the "gains" they have achieved with legislation for children. "Consequences" as one nameless poster says all the time.


If the noose is widening, more people can slip through it.
 
Old 01-02-2016, 04:30 PM
 
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If there were some provable, replicable and empirically demonstrable (e.g. scientific) link between vaccines, the "front-loading" or immunization shots or any of this other non-sense, the first senior scientist to publish such findings would win accolades and prizes and what else more. Maybe the Nobel prize in the field.

So there are a lot of incentives for scientists to find provable links, but none could. Actually, the one who we thought had raised at least a controversy was proven to have committed outright science fraud and had his papers withdrawn (which is pretty much the strongest condemnation of a science researcher over issues of integrity).
 
Old 01-03-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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I know a lot of people have used the argument that immunizations aren't required for camps, etc. Here's some news on that front:
Forbes Welcome (No Vaccination, No Camp)

After reading that article, it occurred to me that I have filled out many an immunization record on camp forms over the years. I do believe the Boy Scouts allow you to exempt.
 
Old 01-03-2016, 02:34 PM
 
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Default NY Vaccination Sincerity Test - A Must see!

NY Vaccination Sincerity Test - A Must see!

Test 1: www.youtube.com/v/FjD7TrmngAY

Test 2: www.youtube.com/v/0IwwB2ECmxU


Quite sad................
 
Old 01-03-2016, 06:15 PM
 
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For every scary story about flu, there are millions more completely boring and uneventful flu stories.
Yes, and probably even more about death from the vaccine itself.
 
Old 01-03-2016, 06:25 PM
 
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NY Vaccination Sincerity Test - A Must see!

Test 1: www.youtube.com/v/FjD7TrmngAY

Test 2: www.youtube.com/v/0IwwB2ECmxU


Quite sad................
Sure is saaaaaad alright...I woulda been interested in the interrogator describing HIS personal beliefs and deciphering them....In fact, had I been that woman ,I would have insisted on it before he got ANY answers to his questions from me.
 
Old 01-03-2016, 06:37 PM
 
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NY Vaccination Sincerity Test - A Must see!

Test 1: www.youtube.com/v/FjD7TrmngAY

Test 2: www.youtube.com/v/0IwwB2ECmxU


Quite sad................
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Sure is saaaaaad alright...I woulda been interested in the interrogator describing HIS personal beliefs and deciphering them....In fact, had I been that woman ,I would have insisted on it before he got ANY answers to his questions from me.
You guys don't understand how a "religious exemption" works.

Its different than a state that allows both a religious exemption and a personal exemption. What most anti-vaccine people really want is a "personal exemption" because as the video demonstrated they couldn't coherently explain their religious beliefs that oppose vaccination.

There is a term in the law known as "bonafide" and that term simply means that something has to be real, legitimate, and not trumped up. Those claiming a bonafide religious exemption are few in number because there are very religions that counsel their members to refuse vaccination.

If I were reviewing whether a religious exemption is bonafide or not there are a number of things I'd want to know for starters:

1. How long the person held these particular anti-vaccination beliefs.

2. What the religious source for the beliefs is.

3. If they could cite religious texts or authorities that support their particular views.

4. (Just like the official in the video asked) I would like a coherent explanation why they don't believe that God allowed vaccines to be developed, so that people could take them to prevent disease.

5. I would like them to name some other people who hold these same views for religious reasons.

6. Church attendance is not mandatory to claim such an exemption, but knowing about it would be helpful in determining whether the religious justification for the exemption really holds water or not.

I realize you object to this inquiry. However, the point is that you might have individual opposition to vaccination and might obtain an exemption for that purpose in states that recognize the individual exemption, but that it is not the same thing as a religious exemption. The distinction is important because a religious exemption is far narrower than a personal exemption is.

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Old 01-03-2016, 06:46 PM
 
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Sure is saaaaaad alright...I woulda been interested in the interrogator describing HIS personal beliefs and deciphering them....In fact, had I been that woman ,I would have insisted on it before he got ANY answers to his questions from me.
Why?
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