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The russian jet speed was about 20 km/min. It could overfly near turkish border for like 5-7 seconds. And turkey warned russian jet 10 times for the period of 5 seconds?
THAT'S BS!!!
I think the statements are that the Russian plane was in Turkish airspace for 30 seconds. Still not enough time for 10 warnings. However..they could have started the warnings before the plane entered. So thats believable. Even then, a 30 second transgression of a plane targeting terrorists doesn't in my mind warrant killing someone. And lets be honest, its only chance that the rebels killed the one pilot (of two-the seconds fate is unclear) instead of the missile.
So while I feel it was unwarranted....well...thats because my country has large ocean borders, I might feel differently if it was over our actual land.
Russia will probably do something in response beyond stopping the co-ordination of military actions against ISIS, most likely something proportional in some way without escalating. Least we can hope.
I dont think the stopping of co-ordination was a good choice, as it may lead to more incidents, not less.
I think the statements are that the Russian plane was in Turkish airspace for 30 seconds. Still not enough time for 10 warnings. However..they could have started the warnings before the plane entered. So thats believable. Even then, a 30 second transgression of a plane targeting terrorists doesn't in my mind warrant killing someone. And lets be honest, its only chance that the rebels killed the one pilot (of two-the seconds fate is unclear) instead of the missile.
So while I feel it was unwarranted....well...thats because my country has large ocean borders, I might feel differently if it was over our actual land.
Russia will probably do something in response beyond stopping the co-ordination of military actions against ISIS, most likely something proportional in some way without escalating. Least we can hope.
I dont think the stopping of co-ordination was a good choice, as it may lead to more incidents, not less.
Russia been bullying half the world with this kind of stuff including Sweden, the US, Britain, Ukraine, Poland, and Turkey. It's about time that someone shot them down. Good for the Turks!
Its more because Iraq stopped paying cops, doctors, road workers,and city administers when ISIS started getting close to the city. Hard to hold a city when there is no one to defend it.
Cops, doctors, road workers, and city administers don't defend the city; the army defends the city.
The US Army trained Sunni-trooped and Sunni-commanded units in those areas. The Al Maliki government replaced the Sunni commanders with Shiite political hacks and moved all-Shiite units into those areas and oppressed the local Sunni populations. When ISIS arrived, the Sunni troops simply refused to fight. They stayed home, found other things to do.
Putin has become more brazen with his fly overs of other countries in recent months, he is very dangerous and his intervention into Syria has made things more complicated. The possibility of this occuring was very large and could lead to an escalation, I hope cooler heads prevail.
I think the statements are that the Russian plane was in Turkish airspace for 30 seconds. Still not enough time for 10 warnings. However..they could have started the warnings before the plane entered. So thats believable. Even then, a 30 second transgression of a plane targeting terrorists doesn't in my mind warrant killing someone. And lets be honest, its only chance that the rebels killed the one pilot (of two-the seconds fate is unclear) instead of the missile.
The official statement from Turkey is the Russian bombers was in Turkish airspace for 17 seconds. I'm not really buying Turkey version of warning 10 times before it even supposedly crossed the border. There are ulterior motives for Turkey doing exactly what it did because it didn't like that Russia was targeting certain rebels that were fighting against Assad and IS oil fields.
I won't even say that Russia is perfect but Turkey clearly shot that bomber with a infrared homing short-range missile purely because they didn't like who Russia was targeting. The US got involved because of some of those rebels are Western backed. It was quite clear of that after watching Obama speech saying Russia should probably focus on IS
Russia been bullying half the world with this kind of stuff including Sweden, the US, Britain, Ukraine, Poland, and Turkey. It's about time that someone shot them down. Good for the Turks!
Hmmm...mixed on this one. I do agree, the Russians have been testing peoples boundaries a lot lately, but I feel a lot more forgiving while they are actively bombing terrorists. Know what I mean?
If the US, Britain, Ukraine, or Poland had shot them down I would be a lot more understanding, there is no active conflict going on against mutual enemies in those areas. Theres no reason for a accidental overflight to occur in those areas. Here? We're talking a very very brief trespass while engaged in conflict against a mutual enemy. I know this opinion may not be popular here with many (except for some of the soviet propaganda folks), but its my opinion based on what I can see from the various data sources.
Hmmm...mixed on this one. I do agree, the Russians have been testing peoples boundaries a lot lately, but I feel a lot more forgiving while they are actively bombing terrorists. Know what I mean?
Well, they tested, and now they know where the line is which they should not cross. If you are warned 10 times, you better believe the other guys are serious. I hope they learned the lesson.
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