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Old 10-24-2015, 03:56 AM
 
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I should send the Benghazi committee a defibrillator to use on their dead horse.
You support invading countries, killing their leaders and then operating gun running into other countries to try and expand the war into that country?

 
Old 10-24-2015, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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so you are saying that Hillary ignoring 600 security requests by an ambassador who reports to her directly that ended up in 4 Americans dead and Hillary not firing any of the "professionals" at the Security Department (her words) because its not her job and then going along with a lie that the Obama's administration made to the public 2 months before an election and then destroying over 50,000 emails shows to you that Hillary did nothing wrong?


she did nothing wrong????? unless she confesses , you find no wrongdoing , not even incompetence.


its kinda hard to investigate perjury when the ambassador is DEAD and Hillary destroyed over 50,000 emails that would show what she knew before the attacks, if the 600 security requests by the ambassador got to her and her actions and the emails to go along with a lie to the public after the attacks.


If Nixon would have destroyed the tapes, nobody could prove he did anything wrong. In this case Hillary destroyed 50,000 emails but you say she did nothing wrong......lol
You keep referring to Clinton "ignoring" requests. You are absolutely positive that security requests are directly approved by the Secretary of State. Anyone who has held a high level management position or even a job in a large company understands your theory is absolutely ignorant. There is a hierarchy of command, and you don't normally contact the CEO for your requests.

In this case, Clinton wasn't contacted for security requests by the ambassador. Since Clinton doesn't specialize in security or even deal with security, she would operate on the assumption that those professionals would act on those requests using their skill and experience. Although the ambassador could have contacted Clinton to complain his repeated requests were denied, he never escalated the issue to that level. Imagine you work at a very large company and a machine continuously breaks down. Do you contact the CEO for your repair requests? On some level, most anyone understands this concept; however, the republicans have convinced their lower educated base that the CEO should strap on a tool belt and fix that equipment.

In essence, Clinton took overall responsibility and admitted to faults in the system. I believe she and many others want to correct these issues, so something similar does not occur again. This is presidential, and it demonstrates true concern for others. Republican leaders have admitted to using the tragedy to attempt to derail her political campaign. It is very obvious to most people that the republican leadership, who voted prior to this event to reduce security funding to our embassies, have acted deplorably.
 
Old 10-24-2015, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I think there is some proof. The Ambassador sent her emails that were either ignored or not passed to the appropriate people. She might not carry all of the blame but she does carry a lot.
This is not correct-- protocol - all of these emails would have a chain of command CC---- it is the govt MOD- it s just the way it is done --and she did ask the DOD for help put them on the stand-- when in a court of law- and the person tells you they called someone-- you then out them on the witness stand -- why DOD was not in the inquiry? Also no question of the bombers,, or terrorist-- where are they-
You may have to be an attorney to see this how this line of questioning was inappropriate and in a REAL court - been done in 2 hrs - these are power lit- abusive people -who have no shame is spending your tax dollars or making America look ridiculous. IT WAS ALL POLITICAL
 
Old 10-24-2015, 06:42 AM
 
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When it comes to lies, nobody can say one is lying unless they can prove otherwise. You can tell me that the Chrysler "K" car you're selling me was only driven to the cardiologists once a month by grandma. Unless I find this false through research or otherwise, that stands as fact. That's how human communication works.
Shortly after the Benghazi incident, the conservative republicans latched on the meme that Hillary was lying to save Obama's reelection who she actually dislikes. After 7 other intensive committees and investigations, nobody.........not one, has found the "CarFAX" that would refute the statement that grandma only drove it to the Drs. So, until the various investigations can prove she lied, you're out of luck.
"Hillary Lied!!!!" has turned into an anchor and a red herring for the republican party.
You guy's don't realize how screwed up you really are. You've become so dysfunctional and can't agree on anything or cooperate on any agenda, even among yourselves, that some bloviating,crass, prime time, snake oil salesman has hijacked your entire nominating process for president of the united states.

Furthermore, what astounds me about yesterday's Goudy Clown Show, was that not one Republican who was out to get Hillary never asked the most basic, pointed, pertinent "Gotcha" question about the whole matter.
"What was Chris Stevens doing in Benghazi with the CIA on 9/11?" "Why Wasn't he at the actual Embassy in Tripoli, while that same day, many of our embassies were under attack in the ME?" That was the one question the Goudy Committee was forbidden to ask or too stupid to ask and it's the one question that is really the heart of the matter.

Like I said, give a bunch of conservative republicans a loaded gun and they'll shoot their foot. They've been after Clinton since 1991 and overshot their mark every single time.
Are you suggesting that Hillary is senile and unfit to be president?

-Tells her Daughter it was a terrorist attack.
-Tells the PM of Egypt specifically that it had nothing to do with a YouTube Video and was a terrorist attack
-Less than 24 hours later tells America it was a spontaneous result of a YouTube video

Let me guess, Hillary has told over a dozen lies on her email scandal, because she is senile? She is so senile, she forgot how many devices she had, she forgot that she was subpoenaed when interviewed by CNN, she forgot how and when the inquiry started saying it was a routine housekeeping request and stuck to the error even after the Washington Post said it was not true, etc...

Let's vote a senile person to the highest executive office in the land!!!
 
Old 10-24-2015, 06:53 AM
 
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If that's how you want to see it, fine.

But if you actually read the transcript from the hearing yesterday, she clearly states that that was not her responsibility. Security was supposed to be handled by other people, not her.

And for crying out loud, EVERYONE occasionally makes mistakes on a job, including your savior Ronald Reagan.
"Not my job", how many times have we heard that phrase from people? A mistake? It occurs to me, that if Hillary would not have made this huge mistake, we would be talking about something else; this tragedy could have been averted.

All Hillary had to do was PAY ATTENTION! She was so busy flying around the world, making nice, dancing, drinking, having a wonderful time with her DIPLOMACY duties.. Maybe, no one informed her of her job description?

Sure people make mistakes; thank the lucky stars, that not all mistakes result in horrible consequences.

 
Old 10-24-2015, 07:11 AM
 
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We seem to be back to rehashing everything from the beginning. The end result is that after all of this, the partisan committee came up with nothing.
The conservatives on this forum seem to be under the false impression that Stevens and the others were just killed last week. Newsflash: The Benghazi attack happened in September 2012. They've been obsessing about this and fantasizing about Hillary being arrested for over three years now. Kind of pathetic if you think about it, isn't it?
 
Old 10-24-2015, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Does anybody else find it strange that these 600 security requests would works out to be over 2 a day? I think someone is likely padding the numbers. I wonder if the requests have been or will be released?
 
Old 10-24-2015, 07:50 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Gotta be a huge conspiracy to destroy the moral, just, righteous, republican party.
Never said that, at all.
However, it tells me he's an untrustworthy political hack.
 
Old 10-24-2015, 07:54 AM
 
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The conservatives on this forum seem to be under the false impression that Stevens and the others were just killed last week. Newsflash: The Benghazi attack happened in September 2012. They've been obsessing about this and fantasizing about Hillary being arrested for over three years now. Kind of pathetic if you think about it, isn't it?
So, do you think history is pathetic? Benghazi happened under Hillary's watch. She is a candidate for president. This should not be a conservative or a democratic debate this is an American tragedy. Some of us don't forget.

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Old 10-24-2015, 07:57 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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In watergate she was fired for lying and ethics issues. History is not your strong point.
Liberals really think its funny that we are trying to get to the bottom of her Benghazi problem and now email issue. Liberals dont see anything she has done as illegal or worth looking into.. Very sad.
We think it's funny because the ONLY reason you care - is because it's Hillary Clinton. Whenever she does what every other politician does - it's magnified x 10,000 in the minds of conservatives.

IF you had shown such concern over other embassy bombings, 9/11/01, OR the Iraq War - your concern would be taken MUCH more seriously.

It's Clinton derangement syndrome on the part of the Republicans and nothing represented that better than Trey Gowdy's sweaty, shouting face. He should have just sworn her in as President right there.

The other congresscritters couldn't ask a question if their lives depended on it. They were just speechifyin for the folks back home.
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