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Old 10-14-2015, 03:05 PM
 
Location: OC/LA
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What we have here is the classic case of politicians lying lying lying in the primaries and a few honest souls taking a different road.

Ultimately we will wind up with the next president that will have said they oppose domestic spying, offshoring jobs, drone strikes, oil companies and much much more and then they'll flip 180 once the votes are counted. By then most voters are so emotionally invested they'll excuse all of this.
Tada! Reality strikes again!
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Old 10-14-2015, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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There are only two candidates that might get us out of the wars, Paul and Sanders. Where it comes to properly placing the blame it is only Paul willing to be honest.

That said, Paul blew his best chance when he didn't raise his hand with Trump. How can you call others idiots but then raise your hand that you would support them if they win?
Good point.

Without a billionaire backing him, he's toast.
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Old 10-14-2015, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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He's irrelevant. Even Lindsey Graham is beating him now in some polls, I just noticed. He is like his dad. Knows he can't win but is trying to give his ideology a voice.
Rand is 7th, ahead of Christie and Huckabee, Graham is under 1.
Election 2016: CBS News poll shows Donald Trump still leads, Ben Carson in second - CBS News

The Fox news poll has him 8th ahead of Christie Graham is under 1.

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In a post-9/11 world, non-interventionalism doesn't work. It sounds nice, but it's unrealistic.
Yes lets continue to invade and occupy which only allows the radical to take over. Your way is a proven failure and is unrealistic.

Where in the world do you get your information? Neocon Central?
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Old 10-14-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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WOW! There might be hope for you yet
Not really. It ain't what you think.
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Old 10-14-2015, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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What we have here is the classic case of politicians lying lying lying in the primaries and a few honest souls taking a different road.

Ultimately we will wind up with the next president that will have said they oppose domestic spying, offshoring jobs, drone strikes, oil companies and much much more and then they'll flip 180 once the votes are counted. By then most voters are so emotionally invested they'll excuse all of this.
^ actually one of the reasons why I would not be too disappointed if somehow, by magic, Lindsey Graham got the nomination. I disagree with most of his positions on just about everything but by golly you know exactly where he is coming from.
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Old 10-14-2015, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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WOW! There might be hope for you yet

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Not really. It ain't what you think.
Wait... so you admit you're hopeless?
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Old 10-14-2015, 03:14 PM
 
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Rand is 7th, ahead of Christie and Huckabee, Graham is under 1.
Election 2016: CBS News poll shows Donald Trump still leads, Ben Carson in second - CBS News

The Fox news poll has him 8th ahead of Christie Graham is under 1.

Yes lets continue to invade and occupy which only allows the radical to take over. Your way is a proven failure and is unrealistic.

Where in the world do you get your information? Neocon Central?
That's what it seems like.

It takes a special brand of Kool Aid for anyone to think that 9/11 happened because we weren't interventionist enough. Wow.
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Old 10-14-2015, 03:17 PM
 
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Rand is 7th, ahead of Christie and Huckabee, Graham is under 1.
Election 2016: CBS News poll shows Donald Trump still leads, Ben Carson in second - CBS News

The Fox news poll has him 8th ahead of Christie Graham is under 1.

Yes lets continue to invade and occupy which only allows the radical to take over. Your way is a proven failure and is unrealistic.

Where in the world do you get your information? Neocon Central?
LMAO @ "neocon central."
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Old 10-14-2015, 03:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by steven_h
WOW! There might be hope for you yet



Wait... so you admit you're hopeless?
Who said that I was hopeless? Why would I admit to something that no one accused me of?
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Old 10-14-2015, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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In a post-9/11 world, non-interventionalism doesn't work. It sounds nice, but it's unrealistic.
What was your excuse before 9-11?
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