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Old 10-16-2015, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Don't get conned into joining the military, OP. Ain't nothing noble about being a government funded baby killer for Halliburton and co.
Many of those "baby killers" have given their lives to protect your right to say just that....

 
Old 10-16-2015, 08:59 PM
 
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Many of those "baby killers" have given their lives to protect your right to say just that....
When has a soldier died protecting free speech...Korea? Vietnam? Iraq?
Answer: never
 
Old 10-16-2015, 09:08 PM
 
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What if the government helped out millenials by not charging any interest rate on federal student loans, increasing grants for college tuition, and give $50,000 - $100,000 towards a downpayment/mortgage purchasing home or investment purposes only? Our government helps out foreign countries, military people and many others still, so why not our millenials who are struggling?
I'm an unapologetic liberal, generally in favor of social programs, but even I think that's ridiculous. Here are a few problems:

- Many college students still pursue impractical liberal arts degrees, and wind up not making all that much. Unless there are incentive for students to get more practical education, this would almost literally be throwing money away in many cases.

- Houses are not a necessity, and can even be a hindrance. One you get a house, you're literally saddled with it until you sell or forfeit the mortgage. Houses aren't practical for many persons, and in many cases aren't actually a good investment, so this is no different than loaning someone money to play the stock market.

OP - Are you seriously asking for this?
 
Old 10-16-2015, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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When has a soldier died protecting free speech...Korea? Vietnam? Iraq?
Answer: never
Every time a soldier or sailor puts on the uniform, they protect your free speech by their presence. They die in distant lands so that you do not have to fight here and yes that is protecting your free speech. What they do protects all of your rights, whether you realize it or appreciate it.
 
Old 10-16-2015, 09:14 PM
 
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Every time a soldier or sailor puts on the uniform, they protect your free speech by their presence. They die in distant lands so that you do not have to fight here and yes that is protecting your free speech. What they do protects all of your rights, whether you realize it or appreciate it.
So the uniform has special powers? They die in distant lands serving the agenda of the federal govt, which is not to be confused with protecting anyone's rights.
 
Old 10-16-2015, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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So the uniform has special powers? They die in distant lands serving the agenda of the federal govt, which is not to be confused with protecting anyone's rights.
Actually, yes it does. Why do you think it is that this country has never been invaded? Do you think it's because nobody would like to control the US and it's assets? Do you think it's because they are fearful of Frank? This country hasn't been invaded in this or the last century because of our military. Plain and simple,
 
Old 10-16-2015, 09:41 PM
 
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Actually, yes it does. Why do you think it is that this country has never been invaded? Do you think it's because nobody would like to control the US and it's assets? Do you think it's because they are fearful of Frank? This country hasn't been invaded in this or the last century because of our military. Plain and simple,
Don't waste your time on stupid.

The bigger picture tends to escape the small minds of liberals when it doesn't directly benefit them or their "causes".

Thank you for your service!
 
Old 10-16-2015, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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The single biggest problem with the OP, and so many others among his friends in the "Progressive" Nursery School, is that he fails to understand either the nature, or the origins of the wealth he and his friends seek to redistribute.

To the average economic bush leaguer, wealth is depicted as ready cash -- denominated in hard, solid dollars in an account to which the producer has instant access. Anyone who has started or run a business, even as a sideline, knows that it isn't so, and an entrepreneur or proprietor had better recognize that a lot of that value can erode quickly, including at those times when the owner faces personal difficulties.

And as for the rare exceptions -- the Amazons, Apples, Dells, Googles and Yahoos -- almost all that wealth is represented by common stock, which would "tank" quickly in the event of outside intervention, and nowhere more so than if the Great Unwashed got the idea of confiscating it for their own purposes.

Outlandish CEO pay? Don't overlook the fact that for every fortunate individual who made it even close to the top by sacrificing most of his/her plans and dreams during the prime of life, there are dozens, hundreds, who "topped out" early, and saw their dreams ended with a dossier somewhere in HR which reads: "the individual is well-placed in his/her present capacity" -- or because the enterprise ran up against a stronger rival.

To summarize, I think we've finally found someone who can rival even Mr. LexusNexus with regard to economic naivete'.

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Old 10-16-2015, 11:58 PM
 
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The single biggest problem with the OP, and so many others among his friends in the "Progressive" Nursery School, is that he fails to understand either the nature, or the origins of the wealth he and his friends seek to redistribute.

To the average economic bush leaguer, wealth is depicted as ready cash -- denominated in hard, solid dollars in an account to which the producer has instant access. Anyone who has started or run a business, even as a sideline, knows that it isn't so, and an entrepreneur or proprietor had better recognize that a lot of that value can erode quickly, including times when the owner faces personal difficulties.

And as for the rare exceptions -- the Amazons, Apples, Dells, Googles and Yahoos -- almost all that wealth is represented by common stock, which would "tank" quickly in the event of outside intervention, and nowhere more so than if the Great Unwashed got the idea of confiscating it for their own purposes

Outlandish CEO pay? Don't overlook the fact that for every fortunate individual who made it even close to the top by sacrificing most of his/her plans and dreams during the prime of life, there are dozen,
hundreds, who "topped out" early, and saw their dreams ended with a dossier somewhere in HR which reads: "the individual is well-placed in his/her present capacity" -- or because the enterprise ran up against a stronger rival.

To summarize, I think we've finally found someone who can rival even Mr. LexusNexus with regard to economic naivete'.
Outlandish CEO pay, of course. Why do they much so much money while paying their employees minimum wage. What justifies that.
 
Old 10-17-2015, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Outlandish CEO pay, of course. Why do they much so much money while paying their employees minimum wage. What justifies that.
Tell me how many of these CEO's hold a gun to their employees heads and make them stay on the job? If you are working in a job that isn't paying enough for the service you are providing, then you need to find a new position.
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