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Old 10-19-2015, 06:54 PM
 
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"The United States is in decline. While not all major shocks to the system will be devastating, when the right one comes along, the outcome may be dramatic.
Not all explosives are the same. We all know you have to be careful with dynamite. Best to handle it gently and not smoke while you’re around it.

Semtex is different. You can drop it. You can throw it. You can put it in the fire. Nothing will happen. Nothing until you put the right detonator in it, that is.

To me, the US – and most of the supposedly free West – increasingly looks like a truck being systematically filled with Semtex."

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/318986-am...ociety-crisis/

How can anyone take an article seriously after reading that introduction? The US is relatively fine, and is no different then any other modern country, Russia included. Russia is going through economic depression/recession, while at the same time trying to show they are still a global player. The author is a Russian sympathizer from England who obviously hates America. North Korea is notorious for doing the same type of news, through in just enough facts to get attention, and then fill the spaces with utter nonsense, false connections, and lies.
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Old 10-19-2015, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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Don't agree with the whole gist of the article (what modern country has a large % on farms?), but don't you think many of the urban, Democrat controlled areas are power kegs?

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/318986-am...ociety-crisis/
You do realize that your article if from Putin's own "Russia Today" website... don't you?

I love how right-wing bitching and Russian propaganda are pretty much the same thing these days
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Old 10-19-2015, 08:12 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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I guess everyone in England must live on a farm.
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Old 10-19-2015, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I'm amazed at how naive the posters in this thread are. This thread is a massive case of normalcy bias.


To understand the predicament the United States is in, you merely have to ask the question, "What would actually happen if the United States economy collapsed?"


Another way I like to look at the question is by understanding that, many people claim to love America, and love being American. But what if we were suddenly poor and weak? Who would love America if it was poor and weak? Who would want to remain in "The Union", if we were suddenly poor and weak?


The vast majority of Americans would abandon ship if something better came along. Especially the 40-50 million legal and illegal immigrants, the 40 million blacks, and many more Hispanic-Americans, and even many liberals. There is no general love for this country, nor do Americans really even have a love for each other.

This country is nothing but a union of convenience. We only tolerate each other, because we don't currently have a better alternative.


Imagine if the recession was twice as bad, something more on the level of the Great Depression, or worse. In those times, people sacrificed, they endured hardships together, they helped each other. But in modern times, everyone has become increasingly selfish, and expect the government to always take care of them.

Thus the real question is, what would happen if the government suddenly couldn't take care of us anymore? Or more specifically, what would happen if this country suddenly became "Greece"? But to make matters worse, a Greece with no Greek identity. A Greece filled full of foreigners, who don't really like each other.


Because that is the direction this country is heading. Between our ever-increasing debt, and our economy built on speculation from unlimited 0% interest stock market and real-estate bubbles. If the Federal Reserve raised the rate at this point, we might be in a depression overnight. If the interest rate on government bonds went up above inflation-level, we wouldn't be able to pay it. If our currency lost its reserve status(IE the petro-dollar), our $500 billion a year trade deficit would bankrupt us within the year.


The people in this thread don't seem to realize the precipice we are standing on, and how quickly everything you know, could fall apart. And the fact that the people are so far-removed from being able to produce food for themselves, means that if things started going downhill, things could get really really ugly.
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Old 10-19-2015, 09:10 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Thus the real question is, what would happen if the government suddenly couldn't take care of us anymore?
I await the day.

(In other words, we would be better off without the government's socialist interference in our lives.)
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Old 10-19-2015, 09:14 PM
 
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I await the day.
No you aren't. No one is.

But I'll go ahead and let you believe that you're fooling everyone.
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Old 10-19-2015, 09:18 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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No you aren't. No one is.

But I'll go ahead and let you believe that you're fooling everyone.
Thank you for telling me what I want. I suppose the government is taking good care of you?
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Old 10-19-2015, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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I'm amazed at how naive the posters in this thread are. This thread is a massive case of normalcy bias.


To understand the predicament the United States is in, you merely have to ask the question, "What would actually happen if the United States economy collapsed?"


Another way I like to look at the question is by understanding that, many people claim to love America, and love being American. But what if we were suddenly poor and weak? Who would love America if it was poor and weak? Who would want to remain in "The Union", if we were suddenly poor and weak?


The vast majority of Americans would abandon ship if something better came along. Especially the 40-50 million legal and illegal immigrants, the 40 million blacks, and many more Hispanic-Americans, and even many liberals. There is no general love for this country, nor do Americans really even have a love for each other.

This country is nothing but a union of convenience. We only tolerate each other, because we don't currently have a better alternative.


Imagine if the recession was twice as bad, something more on the level of the Great Depression, or worse. In those times, people sacrificed, they endured hardships together, they helped each other. But in modern times, everyone has become increasingly selfish, and expect the government to always take care of them.

Thus the real question is, what would happen if the government suddenly couldn't take care of us anymore? Or more specifically, what would happen if this country suddenly became "Greece"? But to make matters worse, a Greece with no Greek identity. A Greece filled full of foreigners, who don't really like each other.


Because that is the direction this country is heading. Between our ever-increasing debt, and our economy built on speculation from unlimited 0% interest stock market and real-estate bubbles. If the Federal Reserve raised the rate at this point, we might be in a depression overnight. If the interest rate on government bonds went up above inflation-level, we wouldn't be able to pay it. If our currency lost its reserve status(IE the petro-dollar), our $500 billion a year trade deficit would bankrupt us within the year.


The people in this thread don't seem to realize the precipice we are standing on, and how quickly everything you know, could fall apart. And the fact that the people are so far-removed from being able to produce food for themselves, means that if things started going downhill, things could get really really ugly.


Didn't you forget to include witches and heretics?
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Old 10-19-2015, 09:22 PM
 
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I'm amazed at how naive the posters in this thread are. This thread is a massive case of normalcy bias.


To understand the predicament the United States is in, you merely have to ask the question, "What would actually happen if the United States economy collapsed?"


Another way I like to look at the question is by understanding that, many people claim to love America, and love being American. But what if we were suddenly poor and weak? Who would love America if it was poor and weak? Who would want to remain in "The Union", if we were suddenly poor and weak?


The vast majority of Americans would abandon ship if something better came along. Especially the 40-50 million legal and illegal immigrants, the 40 million blacks, and many more Hispanic-Americans, and even many liberals. There is no general love for this country, nor do Americans really even have a love for each other.

This country is nothing but a union of convenience. We only tolerate each other, because we don't currently have a better alternative.


Imagine if the recession was twice as bad, something more on the level of the Great Depression, or worse. In those times, people sacrificed, they endured hardships together, they helped each other. But in modern times, everyone has become increasingly selfish, and expect the government to always take care of them.

Thus the real question is, what would happen if the government suddenly couldn't take care of us anymore? Or more specifically, what would happen if this country suddenly became "Greece"? But to make matters worse, a Greece with no Greek identity. A Greece filled full of foreigners, who don't really like each other.


Because that is the direction this country is heading. Between our ever-increasing debt, and our economy built on speculation from unlimited 0% interest stock market and real-estate bubbles. If the Federal Reserve raised the rate at this point, we might be in a depression overnight. If the interest rate on government bonds went up above inflation-level, we wouldn't be able to pay it. If our currency lost its reserve status(IE the petro-dollar), our $500 billion a year trade deficit would bankrupt us within the year.


The people in this thread don't seem to realize the precipice we are standing on, and how quickly everything you know, could fall apart. And the fact that the people are so far-removed from being able to produce food for themselves, means that if things started going downhill, things could get really really ugly.
How many prepper threads survive? This only shows people have no concern and believe the government will handle it. Not only food, it will be gas, heat, electric, medicine, the list is endless!

Many of us do know and get it, most likely many are just tired of non-serious threads.
The fighting is certainly among the people.
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Old 10-19-2015, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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Hi, I am familiar with Russian culture. The author of the article is clearly demonstrating hatefulness towards us. The thing that average Russian is not a big fan of the West, all things considered.

Russian is a different culture, and so this is how they understand us. This is how they interpret us.

Some facts presented and some are even funny.
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Once people wake up and smell the Yuan, the Exodus out of the dollar will be unstoppable.
Yann is pegged USD. They store in their reserves a greenback as collateral and then print like an ounce of their Yann.

Russians use gold bullion, their reserves contain the value of rubble in gold.

Obviously in US not many buy gold as investment, simple reason is that dollar is worth more.

Average Russian does not understand this.

So allot of this is actually Russian impression of us. That's what they think of us.
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