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Poor "blacks" are not the ones shooting up innocent kids in schools and on college campuses.
They aren't the ones gunning down people in movie theaters.
Nor are they the ones committing mass shootings.
It's the normal everyday joe with a job and family...who secretly harbors bitterness, depression and hatred for his self and others.
The more and more I read posts on this site the less confidence I have in humanity.
People really do suck.
Protect yourselves and your families.
World is getting worse by the hour.
Most kids shot aren't in the schools when the shooting happens, they are shot in their neighborhoods. Stop making it sound like most shootings take place in schools, that isn't even close to being accurate.
More shootings are by blacks as a percentage if the population.
You asked for research, you got it....
Despite the black population only representing only 13% of our population, The FBI reports that they commit 38% of the murders while the white population commits 31%
In particular black youth under 22 years old commit approx. 1700 murders compared to about half of that for the white youths.
The things proposed such as registering guns and such will not stop homicides, it is only a tool to help solve crime. It's easily side stepped by determined criminals by filing of the serial numbers.
When these proposals fail to stop gun crime, what will be your next proposal? When your next proposal fails to achieve your utopia, what will be your next proposal then? Where will it stop?
You are misinterpreting the data. There is actually a much greater racial disparity in the murder victim and perpetrator figures. In your table, more than 4,000 perpetrators are listed as of unknown race. In the supplemental data that is only submitted by a fraction of law enforcement agencies, but which accounts for for a substantial majority of all murders, it is shown that 53.6% of murderers were black in cases in which the race was known. A slightly smaller percentage, but still a majority, of victims were black. 43.9% of perpetrators were listed as white.
Wake up and pay attention to the whole of society instead of your self centered focus. Young people are looking for HOPE and a way to build a future.
You can't offer anything except a denial and attack against a program that benefits the young as well as the future and this nation.
There are options.... but there is also a need to embrace RESPONSIBILITY. If you know anything about what is Freedom, you would know it is best achieved and maintained and prospered with and through RESPONSIBILITY.
The country and the people will change, whether you like it or not. The discussion is already underway to make some of the universities free, and there will be more to come. In the Ideal of giving young people avenues to grow, contribute and develop.
Geez, you have to be a hard core straight out Ring Winger, who would love to deny anything to anyone and everyone you can. That's the core of the idealistic Right Winger Mentality. It's proven over and over and over, yet, they themselves rode some assistance by some means through their life, but their selective Amnesia wants to delude them to think they did everything themselves.
They don't even recognize it is the governance of this nation that helped provide avenues for them. If not, they'd be just like the people in nation with terrible governance and the people have nothing. Except the wealthy through their corruption and avarice driven motives and their hoarding mentality, while they spew bigotry at the masses.
You probably grasped nothing about the Maintenance Management of gun registration, or any of the other provision to bring in some higher levels of responsibility into a system of gun ownership.
Types as such are a dying breed, who would like to hold the nation and the people back, but such ones can't, so embrace their bitterness and do their thing. but Get Out of the Way !!!!
Right Wing ideology has set back and held back this nation far too long for it to continue being assaulted by Right Wing Ideological polices and mentalities bringing havoc and contentions at ever turn.
Child, please. You are too young to be living in such fear. Stay in mom's basement, she will keep you safe and provide for you.
Do none of you see what is going on all around the world, how the refugees are folding into Europe and across the sea to America ?
these are disarmed unable to resist tyrants and murders because their countries denied them the right to bear arms.
Where will you go ?
The gun ban lobby spends billions with the clear motive to disarm homeowners
The fact that the vast majority of crime is committed with stolen unregistered guns which are in possession of the --hands up means don't shoot ----people
Is completely ignored
These daily and weekly shooting in and around the Nation, in every state, then there is the madness in particular to focus on The ArklaTex, has gone far enough. Whether it's Shreveport, Texarkana, Marshall, or further South. Focus is also on the killing frenzy in Big Major Metro's, Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, Miami, New Orleans, and many many many other cities.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!!!!
There has to be a crack down - I don't care about the Gun obsessed advocates and their whining. I own guns, I have no problem with a program that demands re-registration into a national data base, with finger prints and photo required, as well as controls on individual sellers, to have to submit a form to the Local Police Department in their area and wait for an authorization to sell a gun to another individual. it does not matter if its a Hand Gun or any kind of gun, including shot guns, The seller and the purchaser needs to have a background check performed before the police give the authorization to transfer ownership of guns from one person to another.
Then we can move toward a program to random gun check, on people in the streets, potential or suspected gang members, or anyone who has and fits what ever the profile is in questionable situations of a potential criminal intent, or domestic violence or other types of categories which pose potential threat, or harm to others.
We can't go on with some bland and wild west style mentality of fighting against some maintenance managmement of who has guns and who does not. I don't care if they ban "Assault Weapons", as far as I'm concerned they have no place in the general public domain, they should be relegated to Police, and Military ownerships and usage. PERIOD. iT IS NOT A SPORT'S HUNTING WEAPON - it is an Assault Weapon. PERIOD. Trying to pretend otherwise is an insanity. Trying to justify it for Sports Hunting should be classified as cruelty to animals. there are many justifications to get these things out of the hands of average citizens.
Purchasing Amo is another matter that has to be addressed. No sale without a form stating what the intented use is. We can go as far as having people to bring in the expended casing, if they expect to purchase additional amo.
I'm sure this post will get a big backlash of controversy, but rather than slamming everything, if you can't offer potential solutions, the posting a bunch of contrite commentary is not promoting anything toward solving the matter of guns in the wrong hands.
It would be treat is there was such a thing as 100% Responsible Gun Ownership - but that is not reality and that certain is not a true fact in America. I am not against Gun Ownership - But we certainly should have some controls over Management Maintenance and National Data systems which profile who is the gun owner and what type of guns do they own.
Gun Manufactuers should be made to build "chip technology" within every weapons produced", and embed it in a way that it cannot be easily removed. Anyone caught with an altered chip, or a removed chip, They are dealt with through the Law Encorcement system and ATF; treat it the same as "counterfieting" with mandatory still penalty.
Then... there is the craziness of 'Domestic Violence" with people killing the whole family, behind some emotional squabble, economic set back and broken relationship. Why don't we have a campaign of some sort, that emphasis, "Don't Run to the Gun - find a soultion to preserve life".
We need a Campaign to Teach Kids, - "Killing Does not Solve Problems or Challenges in Building a Good Life".
We can talk all do and put management maintenance data systems to gun ownership, but even still if we don't reach the hearts and minds of people, even those who have guns and they are within the data base and their picture and finger prints are registered. If they don't have focus given to the mental and social aspects and concepts about how to make their life work. These people can be killers, the same as people in any given situation.
People can find many means to kill, but we need not make grabbing a gun such a easy option. We should not make having acces to get a gun such a easy options, We can make it a Responsible Choice. We can set up mandatory training for people who purchase guns, be it via private purchase or via gun dealers. There should be some mandatory " Responsibility Session" people must attend.
So basically you have no idea what your talking about.
You want to curtail a right, but you have no idea about the actual facts involved. The fact is as follows: if EVERY SINGLE NEGATIVE GUN EVENT is caused by a separate gun the rate of guns being used incorrectly would be 0.0882352941176471%, which is significantly less then the background rates of crime for any racial/social/sex linked demographic. In fact, in July (IIRC) alone we sold 5x more guns in the US then will be used negatively in the ENTIRE YEAR. You still have 11 months of similar gun sales which would be free of negative use.
You skip over the positive benefits of firearms which accounts for 500,000 to 3,500,000 defensive uses every year in the US, which if you just use the in-home use (about 70%) and figured on the individual lives positively changed by the gun use would be 945,000 USING THE LOWEST CDC PRODUCED NUMBER. That still leaves the 30% of out of home use. Taking the DOJ produced Philip J. Cook and Jens Ludwig survey on DGU's (Defensive Gun Use) they came up with a number around 2,500,000 which puts the aforementioned in-home use you end up with 4,725,000 peoples lives who didn't become the victim of a crime.
War on Women you say? Second, raw data from the 1979-1985 installments of the Justice Department's annual National Crime Victim Survey show that when a woman resists a stranger rape with a gun, the probability of completion was 0.1 percent and of victim injury 0.0 percent, compared to 31 percent and 40 percent, respectively, for all stranger rapes (Kleck, Social Problems, 1990).
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[*]You can't just go buy and car and start driving, you have to pass a test and be issued a license.
Yes you can just go buy a car. You can go to a dealer and buy a car without a license. You can buy through the "second hand car loophole" (yes, totally mocking gun control Hoplophobia) without a license. You seem like you never even thought about your argument before posting.
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[*]Why should people be allowed to buy a gun and just be loose to go start shooting it?
To grab a gun and shoot targets? Because that's their constitutional right. Same reason you have a right to post drivel that makes no statistical sense, would increase crime, and cause all sorts of negative consequences even after similar programs were enacted showing increases in crime rates (which you conveniently ignore). Same reason you can go vote for someone who states the same then blame gun owners despite the 39% (IIRC) drop in firearms homicides despite the INCREASE in the number of states allowing concealed carry (only 8 oppose, 2 lost their case and it awaits appeal which will bring it to 6 states denying a right) and now 7 states not even requiring a permit to carry anymore and suffering no ill effects of the law.
I hope I can educate you in some way to the truth of the matter, as a reformed "No one needs assault weapons or carry concealed" New Yorker myself.
Poor "blacks" are not the ones shooting up innocent kids in schools and on college campuses.
They aren't the ones gunning down people in movie theaters.
Nor are they the ones committing mass shootings.
It's the normal everyday joe with a job and family...who secretly harbors bitterness, depression and hatred for his self and others.
The more and more I read posts on this site the less confidence I have in humanity.
People really do suck.
Protect yourselves and your families.
World is getting worse by the hour.
All these "mass shootings" comprise a tiny percentage of murders. They are all that media concentrates on, though.
There's on the average 20 -30 people killed each year in mass shootings, I think the worst was around 70 in the year of Virginia Tech massacre.
There's around 11,000 murders committed each year. Half of them are in the ghettos. A tiny minority of US population is responsible for half of all murders.
This is a perfect example of mass media manipulating the public opinion. Making people like you to ignore the main, huge problem while concentrating on outliers.
And the murder rate had been dropping in the past two decades, just as the legal gun ownership rates skyrocketed since 2000. Again, the fact that media ignores.
Download FBI crime statistics. Look up demographic makeup statistics. Do a basic analysis for yourself. Stop mindlessly parroting propaganda. The real world does not agree with you.
Stop listening to the leftist control obsessed nuts. Don't listen to the right wing nuts. Look at the freaking data from the basic, unbiased source, and be honest with yourself, and open minded.
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