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Old 10-28-2015, 08:45 PM
 
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And go where? What's better than living in Germany?
They can go anywhere in the EU. There are countries refusing to take the invaders. It would be easy for a well-off German over age 45 to live anywhere in Eastern Europe. With the exception of Poland, most of the Eastern Europeans weren't unhappy with the Nazis and so have no historical anti-German bias.

Or they can go elsewhere.

Some of the larger businesses would also be welcome pretty much anywhere.
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Old 10-28-2015, 08:46 PM
 
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after WWII, some European countries over corrected.
Or were forced to over-correct and are still being forced.

The leadership is obviously indifferent to the people and thus must be viewed as foreign and politically hostile.
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Old 10-28-2015, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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This is NOT going to end well.
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:03 PM
 
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It seems overly harsh to punish Germany for their parts in 2 world wars to the extent of becoming an Islamic hell hole.
Except that a significant portion of elites don't believe that anything is too much punishment for Germany.

Importing Muslims into Northern Europe in significant numbers is a human rights issue as Islam is specifically intolerant to the native, pre-imperial religious heritage of Northern Europe because the heritage is polytheist.

When Muslims reach a significant number, they historically attack, persecute, and kill polytheists. There are a large number of Europeans that, in this day, practice their traditional religion.

Specifically, Islam is incompatible with Europe on religious grounds and endangering the native population and their freedom of religion, especially considering the horrific manner in which they were persecuted for it historically, is unacceptable. Persons with such an intolerant religion should not be allowed to penetrate so deeply into Europe in politically significant numbers. Eventually, you will see polytheists be bullied by Muslims or even an Islamic hate attack against a polytheist religious gathering.
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:10 PM
 
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Why is there this weird assumption that every single Muslim is in on some conspiracy to make everyone in the world Muslim? Yeah, the Koran says to do that, but it says a lot of ****. Just like the Bible. I mean, Christians don't follow the Bible to that extreme of an extent. Fun fact, Jesus literally says in the Book of Mathew to never take an oath on anything, yet Christians do that all the time. Or a better example: in John it basically says to never associate with non-believers, which is literally impossible given how many people takes oaths.

Does it really make sense to assume Muslims are different and do follow every little thing in the Koran? The Koran is just as poorly written as the Bible. Few people are going to actually regularly read this thing in anyway outside of passages at worship time. The vast majority will hear these things out of context, be vaguely inspired, and go about their day.

Yes, Islam is a crazy religion. But that doesn't mean every single one of it's followers is a deranged sociopath out to make everything Muslim. That's simply not plausible.

And maybe if western powers didn't work so hard to **** up their home, they wouldn't be immigrating?
Islamists %#$^ up their own homes. There is nothing in the New Testament that is remotely comparable to what Muslims are commanded to believe in terms of potential for violence. Additionally, Muslims are commanded to be especially hostile to people who practice traditional pre-Christian European faiths. Inviting them into Europe is the logical equivalent of inviting ideologically hostile Muslims into Israel but even worse because, from a religious standpoint, Islam and Judaism are compatible and thus can and do get along. This is not the case for Islamists and people who practice traditional European faiths.

Does it make sense to treat Nazis different because "not all Nazis are like that"?

The logical thing is always to look at the full ideology because that is what is likely to be put into effect once a tipping point occurs. The West apologizing for the "nice Muslims" is intellectually weak, not smart, and must ultimately be condemned.
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:14 PM
 
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Germany did not exist during the time of the Holy Roman Empire. The modern nation of Germany came into being during the 1870's and prior to that it was a very loose collection of feudal states.
Geopolitical semantics are meaningless. To make you feel better, we can call it "the territory of the Germanic Peoples".
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:22 PM
 
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There isn't any evidence that the U.S.A. was doing much of anything against ISIS. If anyone believes that they could not have stopped cold a rag-tag army in pickup trucks a long time ago, then they are deluded. It's not like their supply lines are a big secret or that they can't readily see their large movements literally from space.
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:55 PM
 
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Except that a significant portion of elites don't believe that anything is too much punishment for Germany. Importing Muslims into Northern Europe in significant numbers is a human rights issue as Islam is specifically intolerant to the native, pre-imperial religious heritage of Northern Europe because the heritage is polytheist.
Them explain how the 10% of the population of Syria who are Christians and the 2% Alawite are able to co-exist quite nicely with the 80% Muslim population and have been for a very long time
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Old 10-28-2015, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Why is there this weird assumption that every single Muslim is in on some conspiracy to make everyone in the world Muslim? Yeah, the Koran says to do that, but it says a lot of ****. Just like the Bible. I mean, Christians don't follow the Bible to that extreme of an extent.
Fortunately, there is no section of the Bible, where Jesus advocates murder, rape, pedophilia, necrophilia, conquest, and slavery of unbelievers.
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ISLAM?
. . .
There is no peaceful coexistence with such a mad dog that pretends to teach morality yet ignores morality as long as it advances Islam. Muslims can lie, cheat, steal, rape, kidnap and murder without violating their “religious” tenets, as long as the victim is an unbeliever (kafir). Islam is an evil curse upon the nations it infests and upon the people who embrace it... and those who try to leave it (apostates are executed!).

Its “perfect man” is a self proclaimed prophet whose documented proclivities would rate execution if not lifetime imprisonment for rape, murder, pedophilia, kidnapping and other abominations. This is the ideal that Muslims are taught to emulate. It is no wonder that Islamic nations must be ruled under the iron boot heel of dictators and warlords. And Islam only respects those who can crush it, and thus feigns peaceful intents to dispel any suspicion of its diabolical nature. But once it gains sufficient numbers, it imposes its barbaric Shari’a law, and destroys the host civilization.
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Old 10-28-2015, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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One thing is certain though, you cannot ignore the culture. German people are tough, and they have very unique culture. I don't think most Germans will allow this to happen.
It is out of the hands of ordinary citizens. Politicians let them in, get their votes and the cycle repeats itself. Did Californians allow their state become 50% Hispanic? They obviously did.
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