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Old 10-27-2015, 06:59 AM
 
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Seriously, your posts on this subject are incredibly embarrassing.

Go call the imaginary 'Yolanda' to fax you some of the tens of thousands of research papers showing a consilience of evidence from many different fields, since you've shown you don't even know how to download a research paper from an online Journal. Or maybe go read a couple of undergrad textbooks from your local library. Or go to the websites of any of the major worldwide Science Institutions like the Royal Academy or National Academy of Sciences or American Institute of Physics....
When the science is settled beyond a scintilla of a shadow of doubt, I might consider that man is causing it. Otherwise; the earth heats and cools periodically.

 
Old 10-27-2015, 07:11 AM
 
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I am amazed that it has to be pointed out over and over that no one denies that climates change.

Also, that there is no scientific consensus.
Science is not decided by a consensus of a theory. We've so dumbed down science so that the public is being led to believe any cold snap or storm is caused by CO2.

The earth has been slowly warming out of the little ice-age, it's not unnatural, not caused by CO2 and not a freaking catastrophe.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Good article on Greenland but it appears that Lamar Smith and others on the House Science Committee want to eliminate $300M from NASA's budget for earth science, isn't research important?


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But Mr. Overstreet’s task, to collect critical data from the river, is essential to understanding one of the most consequential impacts of global warming. The scientific data he and a team of six other researchers collect here could yield groundbreaking information on the rate at which the melting of Greenland ice sheet, one of the biggest and fastest-melting chunks of ice on Earth, will drive up sea levels in the coming decades. The full melting of Greenland’s ice sheet could increase sea levels by about 20 feet.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...T.nav=top-news
 
Old 10-27-2015, 07:16 AM
 
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Science is not decided by a consensus of a theory. We've so dumbed down science so that the public is being led to believe any cold snap or storm is caused by CO2.

The earth has been slowly warming out of the little ice-age, it's not unnatural, not caused by CO2 and not a freaking catastrophe.
Quite right. Too many people are too quick to assign blame over something that they think they can control. When no one listens to them, the calls become more apocalyptic and alarming and strident. Yet everyone of their prognostications have not come to pass.

Every time another doom message gets put on the board, I chuckle.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Science is not decided by a consensus of a theory. We've so dumbed down science so that the public is being led to believe any cold snap or storm is caused by CO2.

The earth has been slowly warming out of the little ice-age, it's not unnatural, not caused by CO2 and not a freaking catastrophe.
"Slowly" is one thing, what we have seen in the century is not slow and that is the key.

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Old 10-27-2015, 07:27 AM
 
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Another liberal fooled by the Climate Change myth aka Global Warming (wonder why they changed the name?).

Even the Chair of the IPCC, Raj Pachauri indicated that there was no Climate Change for over 17 years back in 2013. Ironically, he had to run damage control after making those statements in order to propagate the canard of CC/GW further. He was eventually forced to resign but I think we all know it was probably some trumped up charge since he had done so much to undermine the religion of GW.

This is about control and money, plain and simple. Buy the lies of you wish.
No kidding. Back in 2013 Rajendra Pachauri acknowledged there had been a 17-year pause in average global temperature rises, that would be a 19 year pause by 2015. This same fact has been confirmed by Britain’s Met Office, NOAA and NASA.

There will be people turning 18 years old this year, and able to vote for the fist time in a presidential election. They will have witnessed ZERO global warming in their entire lives, and yet they have been made to believe that not only has there been a rise in global warming, but that it been catastrophic.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 07:38 AM
 
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but it is very slow...and NORMAL

we have been warming for the last 15,000 years since the peak of the last major ice age

is the warming STEADY???...no, we have had periods (decades) that have seen NO WARMING,,,, we have had a half a century that showed cooling (the so-called little ice ages)

but the fact is since the last major ice age about 15,000 years ago we have been warming...the same as the other dozen warming periods between ice ages




oh and we ARE NOT as hot as previous warming periods...we still have quite a way to go
Oh dear. How funny. Your graphic came from Climate Change for Kids on the EPA website.

The Earth's Climate in the Past | A Student's Guide to Global Climate Change | US EPA

I suggest you actually read the content of the page and the rest of the website- it's simple enough as it's written for 5th graders. It doesn't support what you keep claiming

You'll find a more adult version here on this University of Maine website
http://climatechange.umaine.edu/icec...Core/Home.html

on this page:

http://climatechange.umaine.edu/icec..._Core_101.html
 
Old 10-27-2015, 07:39 AM
 
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Oh dear. How funny. Your graphic came from Climate Change for Kids on the EPA website.

The Earth's Climate in the Past | A Student's Guide to Global Climate Change | US EPA

I suggest you actually read the content of the page and the rest of the website- it's simple enough as it's written for 5th graders. It says the opposite of what you are claiming.
What makes yours right and the other not?

Oh, it offends your warmist theory and we can't have that.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Ceist View Post
Oh dear. How funny. Your graphic came from Climate Change for Kids on the EPA website.

The Earth's Climate in the Past | A Student's Guide to Global Climate Change | US EPA

I suggest you actually read the content of the page and the rest of the website- it's simple enough as it's written for 5th graders. It says the opposite of what you are claiming.
yes its a simple chart...simple enough for people with political blinders such as you to even understand


the earth warms..the earth cools...its a normal cycle

https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpr...earslarge1.gif


the FACT is the last major ice age (which created the island I live on) peaked (peak cold) '''about''' 15,000....and we have been warming ever since

man has nill to do with the warming....its all natural baby

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Old 10-27-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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No kidding. Back in 2013 Rajendra Pachauri acknowledged there had been a 17-year pause in average global temperature rises, that would be a 19 year pause by 2015. This same fact has been confirmed by Britain’s Met Office, NOAA and NASA.

There will be people turning 18 years old this year, and able to vote for the fist time in a presidential election. They will have witnessed ZERO global warming in their entire lives, and yet they have been made to believe that not only has there been a rise in global warming, but that it been catastrophic.
Not only are you cherry-picking data, but you're arguing in favor of it as though you're completely oblivious to the concept. I must draw you.
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
but it is very slow...and NORMAL

we have been warming for the last 15,000 years since the peak of the last major ice age

is the warming STEADY???...no, we have had periods (decades) that have seen NO WARMING,,,, we have had a half a century that showed cooling (the so-called little ice ages)

but the fact is since the last major ice age about 15,000 years ago we have been warming...the same as the other dozen warming periods between ice ages




oh and we ARE NOT as hot as previous warming periods...we still have quite a way to go
Yeah, this is about on the level of observing that scientists agree dinosaurs existed, therefore Journey to the Center of the Earth could really happen.

Firstly, we can explain those warming periods, and we can explain this one. Those were natural, this is not. To reuse an analogy, this is like claiming the earth always got light and dark in the past via the day/night cycle, therefore light bulbs are not man-made.

Second, even if you think this is natural warming, the fact that it's been warmer before is small comfort when there were no significant human populations in those days. "Meteor hitting the earth and obliterating 97% of all life? What's the big deal, it's happened before!"
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