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Old 10-25-2015, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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The first thing a fascist dictator demands is your silence.

 
Old 10-25-2015, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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So, do you think a gag order on the employees of the National Weather Service And NOAA is a good thing?
That depends on the individual circumstance. Any employer, public or private, frowns on employees making unauthorized statements on the employer's behalf. Whistleblowing is a separate question.

The point is that a "gag order" is not illegal, which is what you asserted in your OP.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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So, do you think a gag order on the employees of the National Weather Service And NOAA is a good thing?
I am not convinced there is such a thing. There are situations when one doesn't want public employees speaking on their own.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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The first thing a fascist dictator demands is your silence.
And your ability to defend yourself ...
 
Old 10-25-2015, 03:18 PM
 
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That depends on the individual circumstance. Any employer, public or private, frowns on employees making unauthorized statements on the employer's behalf. Whistleblowing is a separate question.

The point is that a "gag order" is not illegal, which is what you asserted in your OP.
What don't you understand about the government working for the people? It's our taxes paying for these organizations which means they must be transparent and open to the public.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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I am not convinced there is such a thing. There are situations when one doesn't want public employees speaking on their own.
So you think the employees are lying about the gag orders?

The only situation where public employees should be silent on what they do is when the work is classified and the disclosure would risk a national security threat.

Do you know what the freedom of information act is ?
 
Old 10-25-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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Don9

Go to any school board meeting in Texas. Well I'm not sure about all, but no school board member can enter into a discussion about any thing having to do with the district without prior approval of the Superintendent.

In my district, a trustee has to get permission from the super to even go onto a campus, unless they have kids in that school.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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What don't you understand about the government working for the people? It's our taxes paying for these organizations which means they must be transparent and open to the public.
I understand it pretty well, thanks.

But I also understand the ethics of working for an employer, which prevents me from acting as a spokesperson unless I am authorized to do so.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 04:28 PM
 
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the gag order is related to the functioning of the department. Such as collective bargaining.

When I googled the gag order, I got a bunch of crack pot conspiracy theory websites.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 04:29 PM
 
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I see that the tinfoil paranoid alarmists are out in force today.
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