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(1) How insulting! What American companies and the politicians they buy are saying is that they can't find among the 300+ Americans, tens of millions of whom are unemployed, enough "talent." We're too "lazy" and "stupid".
Pretty much. But that's what happens when you keep lowering the standards so that everyone passes.
And I'm pretty sure there are well over 300 americans.
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(2) Why is America responsible for providing jobs for all the talented people across the globe? Why can't India and China find a way to use all their talent?
You talk as though we're doing them a favor. It's just the opposite. We're going ourselves a favor when bringing top talent. But liberals would rather bring in bottom talent from mexico.
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(3) How did America grow for so many years relying on its own talent pool alone?
That was when we had the highest education standards. Those days are long over.
Using Italian (Fermi), Danish (Bohr), English (French ironically), Hungarian (von Neumann), Austro-Hungarian (Teller), German (Einstein) immigrants, seems like more things change the more they stay the same.
Please do, as I mentioned above the more things change the more they stay the same. Most famous American inventions appear to have been invented by immigrants, or not actually at all in the US.
What America does great is provide a political system that attracts great minds. Many people don't realize how many "American" inventions were not actually American inventions.
What America does great is provide a political system that attracts great minds. Many people don't realize how many "American" inventions were not actually American inventions.
Next you will be telling us that Al Gore didn't really invent the internet.
What America does great is provide a political system that attracts great minds. Many people don't realize how many "American" inventions were not actually American inventions.
On that we can agree, the US has one of the best (it's no longer the best) industrial and development environments in the world, and without a doubt the best marketing environment.
However the a large majority of US innovation isn't performed by multi-generational Americans, but immigrants or children of immigrants.
Development and marketing are pretty stuffed if they can't develop or market innovation. You need the big old brains to come up with the ideas to develop and market.
That said this shows that the US has been needing "top talent" from around the globe not just today but across much of the US history. We've never as a country relied entirely on the US talent pool.
I'm wondering what you guys think of this. Politicians on both sides of the aisle are always talking about how we need to bring in more "top talent" from around the globe. It has already become more competitive to get into a good college or get a good job because of international students and H1B Visa workers beating out native Americans. We need more of this, supposedly.
The following are my thoughts and I want hear yours.
(1) How insulting! What American companies and the politicians they buy are saying is that they can't find among the 300+ Americans, tens of millions of whom are unemployed, enough "talent." We're too "lazy" and "stupid".
(2) Why is America responsible for providing jobs for all the talented people across the globe? Why can't India and China find a way to use all their talent?
(3) How did America grow for so many years relying on its own talent pool alone?
I couldn't agree more and it is ridiculous. They want foreign labor because they can work them for less. It's all about greed plain and simple.
You talk as though we're doing them a favor. It's just the opposite. We're going ourselves a favor when bringing top talent.
I would agree if filling the available high-paying jobs with the best and brightest across the globe had a multiplying effect whereby the Americans who otherwise got these jobs are abe to get new ones that are created. What seems to be happening, however, is that good jobs are disappearing fast and Americans are getting pushed off that shrinking iceberg.
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Still with the Gore crap?
The only people who think he said he invented the internet are incurious right wing blowhards who couldn't be bothered to even listen to what he actually said.
Now back to the actual topic...
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I couldn't agree more and it is ridiculous. They want foreign labor because they can work them for less. It's all about greed plain and simple.
Exactly. They get paid basically the same as US workers but it accomplishes a few financially advantageous things. They can be worked like dogs because they're reliant on their employer for their continued presence in the country. They can be used to increase the labor pool and suppress wages overall.
We absolutely should be bringing in the best and brightest. Unfortunately the system is routinely abused to bring in indentured servants who can barely tie their own shoes.
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