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I went to college in the late 80's, early 90's.
College of Engineering, major was Computer Science.
More Asians and Indians then Americans.
Insulting or not, America is not producing highly skilled college graduates.
We have great colleges though and students from all over the world come here to get college educations.
So it's not our schools.
Here's the majors many American students take: women's studies, Star Wars, cannabis cultivation, fermentation studies, creative writing, floral management, and I can go on and on.
Here's the majors international students take: Business Management, Engineering, Math, Computer Science, Physical/Life Science.
This gleamed from admissions data which is all over the web via 5 minutes of googling.
So yeah..the US is hurting for top talent.
Lol... this made me laugh and it is very true. I think The USA wouldn't be hurting from top talent if the potential "top talent" weren't so lazy.
Every month my boss tells our group that we need more engineers and to let him know if we can recommend any talented people. And every month the answer is the same. Every talented person we know has already been hired somewhere else. Salaries in the six-figures and we struggle to even find decent new grads out of college.
So please tell me where we can find all this "untapped talent" you speak of. We really need them.
First I'd be interested in seeing a job listing for one of these positions and hearing what technical questions you ask. Many employers make your exact claim -- that even "decent" grads are hard to come by -- and then I come to discover that they're looking for MIT grads with 3.9 GPAs and 3 internships.
Lol at the notion of 535 scoundrels knowing what talent is needed in a country of 320000000.
Yes oh wise govt gods we call upon you to guide us through these times of talent deficit
Every month my boss tells our group that we need more engineers and to let him know if we can recommend any talented people. And every month the answer is the same. Every talented person we know has already been hired somewhere else. Salaries in the six-figures and we struggle to even find decent new grads out of college.
So please tell me where we can find all this "untapped talent" you speak of. We really need them.
There are 320 million people in this country yet American untapped talent can't be found? Who do you think you are kidding?
Generally, Americans benefit when very smart, hard working people move to thier country. So let them come in most cases. But if the main benificiary is a Mark Zuckerberg adding hundreds of milions to his net worth, while other Americans mostly lose out it, isn't good policy.
Using Italian (Fermi), Danish (Bohr), English (French ironically), Hungarian (von Neumann), Austro-Hungarian (Teller), German (Einstein) immigrants, seems like more things change the more they stay the same.
That was Leonardo da Vinci, a well known renaissance artist, inventor, and engineer, born in Little Italy NYC clearly. After him there was Rene Descartes, Thomas Young (Somerset England), Sir John Herschel. First functional contact corrective lens was by Adolf Gaston Eugen Fick in Zurich (no not Zurich Ohio), and not to be confused with his uncle Adolph Eugen Fick who created Ficks law of diffusion.
Nikola Tesla (Croatia) ring any bells, he was responsible for Westinghouse moving towards AC, actual AC had been around since Faraday.
Charles Babbage invented the first programmable computer, As already mentioned Zuse invented the first binary programmable computer.
Please do, as I mentioned above the more things change the more they stay the same. Most famous American inventions appear to have been invented by immigrants, or not actually at all in the US.
OK, so we should open the borders to ethnic Europeans because they invent ****.
Any reason unskilled workers from third world nations need to be allowed in as well?
First I'd be interested in seeing a job listing for one of these positions and hearing what technical questions you ask. Many employers make your exact claim -- that even "decent" grads are hard to come by -- and then I come to discover that they're looking for MIT grads with 3.9 GPAs and 3 internships.
Most of the time, we're just looking for someone that 1. has at least some relevant experience, 2. can actually remember a fair portion of what they were taught in college, and 3. can demonstrate some actual common sense. Not surprisingly, those people more often have internships and come from top-tier schools.
Most people just pick the major because it shows up towards the top of the salary list. But they haven't demonstrated any real interest in the field and often can't even recite the basics from college.
Too bad so many people have to find out the hard way that the piece of paper alone isn't going to cut it.
OK, so we should open the borders to ethnic Europeans because they invent ****.
Any reason unskilled workers from third world nations need to be allowed in as well?
Sure, Americans don't want to do jobs like mowing lawns, taking trash out, anything that they consider beneath them, most will happily sit in front of the TV, or computer and subsist in Section 8 housing, getting welfare and SNAP, because someone won't pay them the high five figure or six figure salary they're entitled to.
Someone had to be making income that can be taxed to provide the non-working Americans the lives they've become accustomed to.
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