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I think some were legitimately scared and some probably couldn't care less, even if the officer would've threw her out of the window.
You're right, some were probably scared. What concerns me today(and not just with this incident)is the lack of concern for others and the self involvement we see in society.
It does appear that excessive force was used here.
That being said it could be argued that a very disturbing and challenging movement is manifesting itself here. A certain segment of society is being instructed, encouraged and always supported- hopefully with shaky, edited video- to always be in defiance to a person of authority's instructions and commands. Every encounter with a person of authority- a LEO especially- should be seen as an opportunity to push forward an agenda. That by pushing every situation to its extreme- blatently ignoring, refusing, physically fleeing or even fighting back, assaulting and severely limiting that authority person's ability to safely and effectively do his/her job, (and to always encourage a mob of taunting bystanders to video all of these planned conflicts), that hopefully a snippet of video will emerge that could be construed by talking heads to be "excessive".
And then here come the investigations, charges, lawsuits and settlements, some warranted, many others just as excessive as the purported violations of civil rights.
This could be considered beneficial by the weeding out for those infrequent, (and frankly I would argue rare for all the 1000s of encounters daily), where that person in authority actually did not follow policy and training, and especially where injury or death was the result, and those persons can be then dealt with properly. And, cynically, also beneficial to those survivors of criminals who hit the jackpot after a life of crime by their family member is cut short by actions of law enforcement that was later determined to be excessive, or at least questionable or controversial enough to settle out of court. But most importantly for those leaders of the agenda wishing to keep the movement at the forefront of public discussion to continue to benefit by the chaos they create.
Not so good for those communities which rely on law enforcement to keep them safe and having declared war on them, either implicitly by always in defiance in all encounters and threatening, or explicitly by actually harming them and killing them whenever the opportunity presents itself, and law enforcement have taken the hint and are now avoiding them.
I think you hit the nail on the head. The "question authority" mantra has devolved into an "anything goes" situation. The kids have zero respect for their teachers and refuse to follow rules or even polite instructions or requests. If you were a teacher, would you happily be instructing a class that was ignoring you and talking on their cell phones or surfing on their computers?
So many of the public schools today are a huge waste of time for all concerned.
Some said the rest of the students should have been dismissed so the recalcitrant girl could have been cajoled and "counseled" into acting properly- what an enormous insult to the rest of the students that would have been! Blow a whole class period on a student who is marching to her own agenda!
Obviously the cop just blew his stack and went overboard. Nows he's the one in trouble. Luckily for her he didn't snap to the point of shooting her where she sat!
You're right, some were probably scared. What concerns me today(and not just with this incident)is the lack of concern for others and the self involvement we see in society.
I agree.
If it's between two civilians, people want to record it to be the creator of the next big viral video, damn breaking up the fight.
But since there was a cop involved here (some of these students may have had prior run-ins with PO's), I think some were scared to react, and others (probably weren't friends with the girl, especially if she was a new student) just flat out didn't care.
In both situations, there is some level of apathy, which like you said, is concerning, especially with kids.
I think you hit the nail on the head. The "question authority" mantra has devolved into an "anything goes" situation. The kids have zero respect for their teachers and refuse to follow rules or even polite instructions or requests. If you were a teacher, would you happily be instructing a class that was ignoring you and talking on their cell phones or surfing on their computers?
So many of the public schools today are a huge waste of time for all concerned.
Some said the rest of the students should have been dismissed so the recalcitrant girl could have been cajoled and "counseled" into acting properly- what an enormous insult to the rest of the students that would have been! Blow a whole class period on a student who is marching to her own agenda!
Obviously the cop just blew his stack and went overboard. Nows he's the one in trouble. Luckily for her he didn't snap to the point of shooting her where she sat!
Yes, he is on paid leave. Try pulling this stunt in your office with a coworker who angers you. You will be terminated and escorted out of the building.
They get a paid vacation.
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I agree.
If it's between two civilians, people want to record it to be the creator of the next big viral video, damn breaking up the fight.
But since there was a cop involved here (some of these students may have had prior run-ins with PO's), I think some were scared to react, and others (probably weren't friends with the girl, especially if she was a new student) just flat out didn't care.
In both situations, there is some level of apathy, which like you said, is concerning, especially with kids.
It is concerning.
There was an incident where a young woman was getting beat up by other young women at a nightclub for cutting in line, she later died from her injuries.
People stood around and filmed it, if a couple of guys had jumped in and pulled them off she most likely would have lived.
There has a been a "shift" in society, and not a good one.
BTW, just saw the video again and the student behind her who ends having her body on his/her desk(before she gets tossed) doesn't even flinch, too busy looking at the laptop.
Sometimes you need to look around and see what is going on around you.
BTW, just saw the video again and the student behind her who ends having her body on his/her desk(before she gets tossed) doesn't even flinch, too busy looking at the laptop.
Sometimes you need to look around and see what is going on around you.
Probably tells you this isn't the first time an incident like this happened in the classroom.
Kids that are scared will be out of their seats and as far away from the student in question as possible.
I've been in 2 situations like that. One..third grade and those kids were actually crying. Two..8th grade and they just sat there and watched the whole thing and weren't fazed in the least.
Probably tells you this isn't the first time an incident like this happened in the classroom.
Kids that are scared will be out of their seats and as far away from the student in question as possible.
I've been in 2 situations like that. One..third grade and those kids were actually crying. Two..8th grade and they just sat there and watched the whole thing and weren't fazed in the least.
It may not be the first incident.
How about getting yourself out of harm's way? The student behind her has the girl ending up on their desk when the cop(before tossing her) turns her desk upside down and she goes a** over head into the student behind her.
Maybe instead of staring at the laptop, try paying attention to the violence directly next to you and heading your way.
He/She(can't tell it is blurred) came very close to getting it in the face/head from the girl's body.
How about sliding your desk back, of course that requires being aware of your surroundings and not staring down.
What we're getting are snippets of what really happened.
Cameras in the classroom. Then you get the entire story.
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