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Old 11-01-2015, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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If taxes would actually take food off your table, you wouldn't owe any taxes. Redistributions of income and wealth are meanwhile part of the core functions of any society. It's all supposed to flow from the more fortunate to the less fortunate of course, but the right-wing and selfish sociophobes have been doing everything they can think of to reverse the direction of those flows -- to the disgrace and detriment of American society as a whole.
Its called socialism and if you think you are Robin Hood and want to steal from the rich & give to the poor then you need to vote for Sanders.

How many more generations do you think it will take until the American Dream is dried up because the only thing working hard will get you is having it taken away and given to someone else who is too lazy to work?
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Old 11-02-2015, 04:39 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Its called socialism and if you think you are Robin Hood and want to steal from the rich & give to the poor then you need to vote for Sanders.

How many more generations do you think it will take until the American Dream is dried up because the only thing working hard will get you is having it taken away and given to someone else who is too lazy to work?

No it is called regulation, and PROPER taxation and no freebies to the elite corps and all their lawyers - what is wrong- is nobody is playing FAIR. They have bought the law makers and what should be fair and keep life decent for all has been derailed by GREED.
If there was NO more welfare or food stamps for any poor person - the same taxes be collected from you and be spent in another corporate hand out. Guaranteed - so you going to give it up anyhow-

I just think most of you do not understand how corporations really-work. You reuse to say they are the reason we have illegals, you refuse to accept they do NOT want to pay the American citizen a good way so they ship the jobs overseas. WE, you and I frekn tax dollars subsidize that! And they do not want to be the ones fixing the roads or anything else with their taxes- loopholes galore--
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Old 11-02-2015, 04:43 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Now. Let's see maybe we should just make camps,,, can't tell people how to live or but many do that and the apt managers go nuts!!!
You can't just out some person with your family.
Camps? How about dorms, like in college. 2 to 4 to a room. Don't like living that way? There's your incentive to move up and out.
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Old 11-02-2015, 04:44 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why not? You're telling me to give government money I worked to earn why can't they force you to live together.
Exactly.
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Old 11-02-2015, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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The S&L Bailout: $32 billion every year for 30 years

All this money will come from taxpayers and will go to the people who bought the bonds. So, ultimately, the S&L bailout amounts to a massive transfer of wealth from ordinary people to investors (most of whom are wealthy)-as well as to the crooks who looted the S&Ls. (Few of them were convicted, by the way, and the average sentence of those who were was less than two years.)

Corporate Welfare The S & L Bailout: $32 billion every year for 30 years

I recently read the February 24 Good Jobs First report, “Subsidizing the Corporate One Percent,” by Philip Mattera, a respected thought leader in our business. It says that three-quarters of all state economic development subsidies went to just 965 corporations since the beginning of the study in 1976. The Fortune 500 corporations alone accounted for more than 16,000 subsidy awards, worth $63 billion – mostly in the form of tax breaks...those 514 economic development programs are almost all the result of insidious cronyism.


Forbes Welcome
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Exactly.
camp mentality-- just herds them all together for the good of the nation-- hmm sounds like some dude named H-- my hubby's casket had a American flag draped over it- think he died preserving the freedom of all --not just a couple of knuckleheads- who think freedom is for the rich
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:06 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The S&L Bailout: $32 billion every year for 30 years

All this money will come from taxpayers and will go to the people who bought the bonds. So, ultimately, the S&L bailout amounts to a massive transfer of wealth from ordinary people to investors (most of whom are wealthy)-as well as to the crooks who looted the S&Ls. (Few of them were convicted, by the way, and the average sentence of those who were was less than two years.)

Corporate Welfare The S & L Bailout: $32 billion every year for 30 years

I recently read the February 24 Good Jobs First report, “Subsidizing the Corporate One Percent,” by Philip Mattera, a respected thought leader in our business. It says that three-quarters of all state economic development subsidies went to just 965 corporations since the beginning of the study in 1976. The Fortune 500 corporations alone accounted for more than 16,000 subsidy awards, worth $63 billion – mostly in the form of tax breaks...those 514 economic development programs are almost all the result of insidious cronyism.


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You're wrong about most of it going to the wealthy. The top 1%'s wealth totals under $12 trillion (not just investments). John and Jane Worker and Jack and Jill Retiree have $24 trillion invested in their pension funds and retirement accounts. The latter, having more investment assets, is actually getting the bulk of the wealth transfer.

Retirement Question 4 | EBRI
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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The Cato Institute estimates that federal subsidies to corporations cost taxpayers almost $100 billion every year

Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich and Corporations*|*Bill Quigley

are you going to DENY the facts?? really??I can post and post and post all the actual funding going to corps
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:14 AM
 
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Exactly. So why is one responsible for the costs incurred by driving negligently but not responsible for the cost of negligent childbearing? Hmmm...?
The question here is over alleged effectiveness. Why do you simply run away from the entire point of such questions so quickly and consistently? Hmmm...?
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:16 AM
 
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Why? Why can't low-income earners live with roommates to split living expenses and eliminate unnecessary spending to live within their means?
They do, and it doesn't work. This is the whole problem with right-wing homilies. They don't work, yet people still try to pass them around as if they did. Go figure.
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