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Only if you follow his narrative and assumptions. If however you look closer the flaws begin to stand out.
What flaws? It's the USDA's own data:
Poor adults with food stamps: 44% obese
Poor adults without food stamps: 33% obese Non-poor adults who of course don't even qualify for food stamps: 32% obese
See the discrepancy there?
Of course, exacerbated by this fact... 59% of families on food stamps simultaneously get benefitsfrom 2 or more major free food programs for the exact same daily meals. That fact published by the USDA OIG.
Poor adults with food stamps: 44% obese
Poor adults without food stamps: 33% obese Non-poor adults who of course don't even qualify for food stamps: 32% obese
See the discrepancy there?
Of course, exacerbated by this fact... 59% of families on food stamps simultaneously get benefitsfrom 2 or more major free food programs for the exact same daily meals. That fact published by the USDA OIG.
If it was nonsense, why would the USDA bother to determine and then publish the huge discrepancy in obesity rates, specifically stating that such was statistically significant? And why would the USDA OIG publish a document stating that the duplication of benefits is a problem?
If the Dept. of Ag does NOT track it but, relies on the individual states, how do they and YOU know?
For one thing, I confine myself to respected and reputable sources, something that would of course leave out well-known right-wing propaganda rags as American "Thinker". SNAP fraud is meanwhile pursued through joint state and federal efforts. States of course have the primary responsibility for policing their own implementations of SNAP, but extra resources and the targeted analyses that EBT-card data make possible are a driving force behind many state investigations. There is plenty of information available out theer on SNAP enforcement programs and efforts. I've read plenty of it. You are plainly enough not even aware of it.
If it was nonsense, why would the USDA bother to determine and then publish the huge discrepancy in obesity rates, specifically stating that such was statistically significant? And why would the USDA OIG publish a document stating that the duplication of benefits is a problem?
You're in denial.
Why do you support ruining the poor's health?
No, I watched this entire topic of yours get torn apart...and watched you deny that completely. I feel no need to rehash it beyond providing the 40+ page link of people explaining why you were wrong.
The irony of your last statement is incredible. And you dont even see it.
No, I watched this entire topic of yours get torn apart...
It never was torn apart. No one could explain why the USDA itself determined and then published the huge discrepancy in obesity rates, specifically stating that such was statistically significant. And why the USDA OIG published a document stating that the duplication of benefits is a problem.
You're in denial.
Why do you support ruining the poor's health? That's pretty cruel.
It never was torn apart. No one could explain why the USDA itself determined and then published the huge discrepancy in obesity rates, specifically stating that such was statistically significant. And why the USDA OIG published a document stating that the duplication of benefits is a problem.
You're in denial.
Why do you support ruining the poor's health? That's pretty cruel.
People can judge from the link I provided. I am not going to engage you on this.
People can judge from the link I provided. I am not going to engage you on this.
Exactly. Not one person in that thread explained the HUGE discrepancy in obesity rates for adults receiving food stamps, nor could anyone explain why the USDA itself determined and then published that HUGE discrepancy in obesity rates (with the USDA itself specifically stating that such was statistically significant) or why the USDA OIG published a document stating that the duplication of benefits is a problem.
You're in denial.
Why do you support ruining the poor's health? That's pretty cruel.
Obama quote, "I guess we did NOT have as many shovel ready jobs as we thought, ha-ha"
Another trained-seal trick. The actual quote at a Jobs Council session in June 2011 was "Shovel-ready was not as ... uh .. shovel-ready as we expected." The line got the laugh it was designed to elicit. But what it actually points to is the rather flawed understanding that Obama and millions of others once attached to the term. "Shovel-ready" has never meant "Let's get started in the morning." It refers to a point in project development where folks aren't going to go any further without there being actual money on the table. You might know how many shovels you will need at that point, but you haven't bought any of them, nor have you hired any of the people who will dig with them. Nor have there necessarily been any financial implementation, oversight, and review capabilities established anywhere. There is yet a long way to go from merely being "shovel ready".
In any case, at their height, those 90,000 infrastructure projects all over the United States were providing a paycheck to 750,000 Americans. ARRA as a whole left more than 3 milllon jobs in the economy at the end of 2010 than would have been there without it. Republicans? Standing around watching and otherwise being either useless or counter-productive.
A new study by the National Bureau of Economic Research has suggested that programs like food stamps and housing vouchers reduce poverty by almost twice as much as first thought.
"According to standard census numbers, the poverty rate in New York from 2008 to 2011 was 13.6 percent, before taking these programs into account. The programs the study examines — food stamps (a.k.a. SNAP), welfare (a.k.a. TANF), state-level general assistance programs, and housing aid — dropped that down to 10.8 percent. But the study suggests the real number was even lower: a mere 8.3 percent."
The estimated poverty-fighting power of these programs has been dramatically understated for years. Turns out anti-poverty programs not only work, but work better than we thought.
That doesn't even make sense. Reduce poverty??? How in the world do food stamps reduce poverty when they are government handouts paid for by the tax payer? Ridiculous! They have done nothing but increased the mind-set of people that "the government will take care of them...don't bother trying to actually make a living on your own...don't have to force one's self to actually take responsibility for themselves. Wow! It's part of that over 18 trillion-dollar debt Obama has run up!
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