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Old 10-29-2015, 08:29 AM
 
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Years ago if you were poor, you were poor and lived that life. Now there are an incredible number of programs to raise the standard of living of poor people who make low wages into the middle class lifestyle.

Food stamps, free school lunch programs, discounted rent, public housing, earned income tax credit, reduced cost for health insurance, free health clinics, etc. etc.

When did all these things happen? Do you remember the days when if you were poor and did not make much money, you were just poor?

 
Old 10-29-2015, 08:35 AM
 
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Everyone deserves everything in America. Didn't you know that?
 
Old 10-29-2015, 08:40 AM
 
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Years ago if you were poor, you were poor and lived that life. Now there are an incredible number of programs to raise the standard of living of poor people who make low wages into the middle class lifestyle.

Food stamps, free school lunch programs, discounted rent, public housing, earned income tax credit, reduced cost for health insurance, free health clinics, etc. etc.

When did all these things happen? Do you remember the days when if you were poor and did not make much money, you were just poor?
50 years ago: 1955

Food Stamps: 1939 A Short History of SNAP | Food and Nutrition Service
School lunch program: 1946 Background and Development | Food and Nutrition Service
Public Housing: 1937 http://reengageinc.org/research/brie...ic_housing.pdf
EITC: 1975 The Earned Income Tax Credit and the Child Tax Credit: History, Purpose, Goals, and Effectiveness | Economic Policy Institute
Reduced costs for health insurance: Don't know; Medicaid 1965
Free health clinics have been around a long time, often as training experiences for med students and medical residents.

As you see, the food and housing programs came about during the Depression.
 
Old 10-29-2015, 08:40 AM
 
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They actually worked
 
Old 10-29-2015, 08:45 AM
 
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COL and wages were relatively more favorable.
 
Old 10-29-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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50 years ago: 1955

Food Stamps: 1939 A Short History of SNAP | Food and Nutrition Service
School lunch program: 1946 Background and Development | Food and Nutrition Service
Public Housing: 1937 http://reengageinc.org/research/brie...ic_housing.pdf
EITC: 1975 The Earned Income Tax Credit and the Child Tax Credit: History, Purpose, Goals, and Effectiveness | Economic Policy Institute
Reduced costs for health insurance: Don't know; Medicaid 1965
Free health clinics have been around a long time, often as training experiences for med students and medical residents.

As you see, the food and housing programs came about during the Depression.
Nice rebuttal but that was actually 60 years ago so that makes it even more valid. Medicaid in 1965 would have been 50 years ago.
 
Old 10-29-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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50 years ago: 1955

Food Stamps: 1939 A Short History of SNAP | Food and Nutrition Service
School lunch program: 1946 Background and Development | Food and Nutrition Service
Public Housing: 1937 http://reengageinc.org/research/brie...ic_housing.pdf
EITC: 1975 The Earned Income Tax Credit and the Child Tax Credit: History, Purpose, Goals, and Effectiveness | Economic Policy Institute
Reduced costs for health insurance: Don't know; Medicaid 1965
Free health clinics have been around a long time, often as training experiences for med students and medical residents.

As you see, the food and housing programs came about during the Depression.
Beaten to it. The programs enacted here go a long way to make sure we never end up with "depression era" levels of poverty again. no one in their right mind wants to roll back to a situation where that kind of situation is possible.
 
Old 10-29-2015, 09:00 AM
 
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50 years ago: 1955

Food Stamps: 1939 A Short History of SNAP | Food and Nutrition Service
School lunch program: 1946 Background and Development | Food and Nutrition Service
Public Housing: 1937 http://reengageinc.org/research/brie...ic_housing.pdf
EITC: 1975 The Earned Income Tax Credit and the Child Tax Credit: History, Purpose, Goals, and Effectiveness | Economic Policy Institute
Reduced costs for health insurance: Don't know; Medicaid 1965
Free health clinics have been around a long time, often as training experiences for med students and medical residents.

As you see, the food and housing programs came about during the Depression.
And yet none of these programs have alleviated poverty in America. In other words, they were poor before they received benefits, and they are still poor after they received benefits. All we are doing is paying to keep them alive and comfortable.
 
Old 10-29-2015, 09:04 AM
 
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And yet none of these programs have alleviated poverty in America. In other words, they were poor before they received benefits, and they are still poor after they received benefits.
The poverty rate has actually gone down since the 60s.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/def...st_embargo.pdf
"The percent of the population in poverty when measured to include tax credits and other benefits has declined from 25.8 percent in 1967 to 16.0 percent in 2012."

We'll never eliminate it, but it's better to have poor people who are at least decently fed, housed and able to get health care.
 
Old 10-29-2015, 09:05 AM
 
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They actually worked
Really? Did the welfare rolls drop?
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